"so josh92 thats my point, its not investing for growth its...

"so josh92 thats my point, its not investing for growth its turning the asx into a casino like gambling which way up or down red or black??? it's a load of rubbish to me and soon you won't have anything left once youve been burn't on the wrong side of a short or long.

this game has nothing to do with fundamentals and investing, One day you'll find out"

i think you miss read what i was saying.

and i think from your reply, one day you will learn how to play the game.

fundamentals have been out of this market along time, its all technical.
as soon as you keep up with the times, maybe youll make some money, and quit complaining about what direction a stock is going, and make money both ways.