It appears to me that there is not such a big difference between the opposing sides of this discussion but rather people are talking about different things and what we need to do is actually isolate the problem
If you have been on jury duty at some stage and are unable to reach a consensus you have to ask the people why they think that way
Some people answer purely on political grounds, some answer on what they have been brainwashed to believe, so what I am asking at this time is not how you fix it or what causes it but if there are people who do not believe!
