Domestic deaths of Women In Austraia

Originally posted by GortonGums: ↑

that page you linked is right but...

Indeed it is right.

Spikes occur. The long term trend for intimate partner murder of females has been down, which is notable and quite positive given the population has increased by just over 50% since 1990.

The table you've posted is all victims including children, when assault victims are separated in figure 8 numbers of adult male victims have grown by 1990 over 5 years against adult female by 2297, but on a percentage basis the male victims are growing at a higher rate, and with children is a notable contributor to the trend. I can see why you left it out, given it may attract the "not all men" crowd, but misuse, eh... given you knew there was another table available.

The current moral panic has been kicked off by women being murdered by partners or ex partners at what's regularly hinted at in the media "at an increasing rate" or "beyond what's been seen".

The data says that's not factual, and it's become disingenuous. The Westfield victims have been swept into figures quoted in the media to hype things even more. It helps bring the "women killed every 4 days" (actually 4.5) down from ever 6.7 days. Given how rarely mass stabbings occur in Australia it's interesting to claim the victims for a particular cause. There was also a strange demand from the media for that guy to be an incel, so there could be another type of murderous boogeyman they could scaremonger about.

I'm sure there's various groups and government entities salivating at extra funding, not to mention the media itself getting a big lick of "don't be a naughty man" advertising campaigns. The media is probably the worst actor in this whole issue. They're dying a slow death and will latch onto anything that has the potential to put more ad bucks in their coffers.

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I don’t think the reaction of women to violence against women is triggered by what’s seen as an increasing rate of violence. Whatever the media might suggest. Women just don't like seeing a regular feed about deaths or violence of other women at the hands of men

and they don’t much like seeing men try to wriggle out of it by talking about how women are abusive (they might be but they don’t kill their partners very often and provocation defence when they have done so after years suffering at the hands of their partners hasn’t worked too well). They don’t like seeing men blame sexual violence on women’s dress, or make up or walking home alone. They don’t much like men distracting the focus by arguing about whether the rate has gone up or down. they don’t much like men bsing about caring then avoiding the hard discussions. They don’t much like men who pretend they care, talk about how men shouldn’t be cowards, hit women or whatever and then talk about female breasts, bottoms or otherwise objectify them. Or talk about nagging and forget their own behaviour. They don’t like feeling unsafe. They don’t like thinking it’s dangerous to trust or like men. They don’t like that it is so readily turned back on them

violence of any kind is an abomination. Maybe it’s about more than violence against women. Maybe it’s about a culture where men think it’s ok to battle out disagreements, to allow a lack of self control, to think that it’s important to be right and ti fight for that. Maybe it’s about a society where winning matters more than being decent. Maybe it’s about not having tte skills to navigate disagreement, or a sense of entitlement that is out of control.

maybe we’d be better taking the focus off women and spend s little time learning how to be a good human, to be decent, to be kind and thoughtful. Maybe we should reevaluate the importance of a good community and commitment to community health and learn that individual rights taken extremes do not serve us well.