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twenty this ones for you as i promised to go and look at my old emails from skittles and this is one of the interesting things he wrote ...it might help you i dunno ? you seem to know more about tech chat than most.. he wrote ... was talking with my old man that the fact that Rob Pole is working on the( middle mile )to make it even faster and when that comes through and we get to market will be laughing..end quote ... maybe you can explain what he was on about? but Rob Pole had not left the company or been sacked as lots here suggested. anyways as i said I'm not getting involved with hot copper anymore as its just not educational for me.GLTAH