Dumb and dumber

Originally posted by raiderup ↑

" You can't tax yourself out of a recession, I thought that was the one big lesson the world learnt in 1929. "

Not too sure if the above statement is accurate at all.
The major problem in the great depression,was a lack of money,been lent.
Hence TARP.

Another important goal of TARP is to encourage banks to resume lending again at levels seen before the crisis, both to each other and to consumers and businesses. If TARP can stabilize bank capital ratios, it should theoretically allow them to increase lending instead of hoarding cash to cushion against future unforeseen losses from troubled assets. Increased lending equates to "loosening" of credit, which the government hopes will restore order to the financial markets and improve investor confidence in financial institutions and the markets. As banks gain increased lending confidence, the interbank lending interest rates (the rates at which the banks lend to each other on a short term basis) should decrease, further facilitating lending.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubled_Asset_Relief_Program

That the major players sat on their hands in this regard,had nothing to do with taxation.

Its my contention the forgone tax revenue in this country by either Government "approval",or corporate " design ",obviates the need for re-balancing Australia's taxation system.
Why should trust's be taxed at a lower tax rate?,ect ect ect.

One only look to Norway,and how taxation has worked for them.
IMHO Australia has and is been " gamed " in relation to Taxation, a massive and major overhaul of the entire tax system is necessary.
Not just Federally but also states and local government.
One obvious consequence of that is the ridiculous amount of duplication of services throughout the three tiers of government.
Duplication means waste.

IT IS widely acknowledged that Australia's federal system is broken. What we did not know is how much this is costing us. The price tag has now been estimated at $9 billion each year in wasted taxes. This amounts to $1100 per family.
That is a conservative estimate by the Business Council of Australia. It is how much the community pays for the duplication of services and inefficiency that bedevils the relationship between our federal and state governments.
Even this understates the true cost. It is only the amount of extra tax we pay and does not include the money lost to businesses in having to comply with unnecessary red tape or the cost of sub-standard health and education services.
Taking these into account, it has been estimated that the duplication and extra co-ordination costs in the Australian Federation are an astonishing $20 billion a year. This amounts to 9 per cent of all general government expenses or 3 per cent of GDP.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/federation-needs-a-fix/2007/03/20/1174153055140.html

Raider

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the great depresssion.... you might like to look at the attitrcude roosvelt had to wards business....... had to eat humble pie at the start of WW@ cause his highly keysian and welfare officials could nt run a pissed up in a bar

very very very anti business lsiten to his speeches.. YET AGAIN INCOMPETENT GOVERNEMENTS .... as is the case around the world at present ... and almost all left leaning... welfare ....control of the massess

and of course people put their money under the bed cause bansk closed and gold was confiscated....

and thsu lets not forget about the velocity of money

oh yes... the fools at the federal reserve ( a private organsiation THEN AS NOW ) began to life interedt rates to soon

and your telling us governements know how to spend our dollars ( taxes) better than you and I do???....... some dope in washington, canberra knows better.... what planet are you on?