how about just stop the fighting or finer pointing and focus on stuff that matters or is significant.
UT, many here answered your so called question already, but that to you still does not seem good enough.
now you are here talking about people that are being up themselves? huh?
but is that not what you are doing? of course it is!
not listening or caring or even agreeing to anything anybody says except selectively is rather being stuck up!
