It's amusing watching the likes of wotsup and rcman argue over scripture.
Unfortunately, that's the nature or Protestantism, they threw the baby out with the water when Luther separated from the CC, now its only just about every individual to reconstruct their religion from the start as how they see fit by just reading the bible and accordingly of how they see things.
They not only try to naturalise the CC from whom they come from by twisting and turning anything remotely the CC teaches , but also other Protestants in order to make their own reality stick or have some substance to justify their own existence
