Wheres can this UPI article be found that everyone keeps referring to??
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These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
regards
Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
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The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.
Their record indicates that they can't feel shame. With these "piggy backs" now approved, they will obtain even more power. Small investors, unless there one of their mates, will be the losers.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
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It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
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I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
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I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
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We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
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I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
(0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
(0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
(0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
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If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
Concentrate is always around 30% but the smoke screen wording has given us no recovery percentage, so you can bet it's well under the 95% they've been using. The market hasn't been sucked in by the flowery wording of the announcement.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
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He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
Posted by diatribe
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Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview
piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
Posted by bigdump
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so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
Posted by diatribe
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fark u 2 fool ramper
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
Posted by trade4profit
IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview
diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
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Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
Posted by bendigo
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Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
Posted by NR
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all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
Posted by Dezneva
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Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
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These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
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Posted by Rocker
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well picked up T4P
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This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
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The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
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CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
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Salty - howsabout an email update please imo!!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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Here’s a full summary and contextual analysis of the September 2024 Nature Geoscience paper by Voisey et al., alongside the Smithsonian Magazine coverage, with relevance to Hill End and its orogenic gold system.
Summary:
“Gold Nugget Formation from Earthquake-Induced Piezoelectricity in Quartz” (Voisey et al., Nature Geoscience, 2024)
1. The Core Hypothesis
The study proposes that gold nugget formation—particularly large, high-grade nuggets within quartz veins—can occur as a result of repeated earthquake activity. This mechanism operates via a piezoelectric process, where mechanical stress on quartz during seismic events generates electrical charge.
Quartz is a naturally piezoelectric mineral, meaning it can produce electric potential when stressed. The researchers found that in certain conditions:
·Quartz crystals embedded in fault-hosted veins undergo mechanical deformation during an earthquake.
·This deformation produces localized electric fields.
·These electric fields can electrochemically reduce gold from nearby hydrothermal fluids or finely disseminated gold in the rock.
·Over many repeated seismic events, gold accumulates at a specific point—forming a nugget that may grow incrementally over thousands to millions of years.
This process is described as the quartz acting like a natural battery, with gold acting as the cathode, gradually growing in place through micro-deposition events.
2. Supporting Observations
The study builds on observations that:
·Quartz veins frequently host gold in orogenic systems, yet large discrete nuggets are not evenly distributed.
·Many of the world’s largest nuggets (e.g. Welcome Stranger, 78 kg) come from tectonically active, quartz-rich orogenic belts (like Bendigo, Ballarat, Hill End).
·These nuggets are not always associated with extensive disseminated mineralization—implying a localized growth process, not bulk deposition.
Their experiments and modelling suggest that voltage differentials of ~1 volt/meter are sufficient to cause electrochemical reduction of gold complexes in solution, particularly in low-salinity, CO₂-rich metamorphic fluids—the exact fluid type found at Hill End, Fosterville, and Bendigo.
3. Timing: Post-Orogenic Nugget Formation
A key implication is that this mechanism may occur after the main phase of gold deposition, during post-orogenic stages when:
·Faults continue to reactivate under regional stress fields.
·Small, frequent earthquakes (microseismicity) persist over long periods.
·These repeated events continuously charge and discharge quartz veins, facilitating nugget growth after initial mineralization.
This aligns with observations from Hill End and Bendigo that high-grade shoots and nuggets often occur in structural intersections or fault bends, where strain is repeatedly localized.
4. Broader Significance: Explains Nugget Localization
Until now, models explaining gold nugget formation have leaned on:
·Supergene enrichment near surface (for secondary nuggets), or
·Bulk precipitation from hydrothermal fluids (for primary lode gold).
However, neither model convincingly explains why large nuggets form in very small zones while surrounding quartz is barren or low grade.The electrochemical-piezoelectric mechanism accounts for:
·Localized nugget growth in otherwise barren quartz.
·Incremental accretion over time, not a single hydrothermal event.
·Occurrence of nuggets along reactivated faults and vein intersections.
5. Relevance to Hill End
Hill End’s geology shares key features that make it a prime candidate for this process:
Feature
Presence at Hill End
1 Quartz-rich bedding-parallel veins
Yes – extensive laminated quartz reefs (e.g. Paxton’s, Phillipson’s)
2 Tectonically active setting
Yes – along the Lachlan Fold Belt and eastern margin of the Great Dividing Range
3 Post-mineralization fault reactivation
Yes – late-stage reverse faults and fracture zones (Stage IV & V) with minimal new gold but structural remobilization
4 Free gold and large nuggets
Yes – coarse visible gold common; Holtermann Nugget (~290 kg quartz-gold specimen) is a prime example
5 Low-salinity, CO₂–CH₄ rich fluids
Yes – confirmed by fluid inclusions at ~293–340°C
The Holtermann Nugget, discovered in 1872 at ~50 m depth, could be a textbook example of this mechanism:
·Formed within quartz reef (Paxton’s vein).
·Located near a known fault intersection.
·Possibly grew over time through successive piezoelectrically induced precipitation events.
If correct, this would mean:
·Hill End’s large nugget zones may have formed after primary deposition, and
·Similar “battery zones” may exist at depth, where fault activity persisted post-orogeny.
Implications for Exploration
This hypothesis offers new targeting criteria:
1. Look for Piezoelectric “Battery Zones”:
·Quartz-rich fault intersections with a history of seismic reactivation.
·Structural traps that concentrate stress and fluid flow over time.
·Areas with brittle–ductile contrast that encourage slip during seismic loading.
2. Don’t Dismiss Barren Quartz Veins:
·Quartz veins with minimal sulfides but large nugget discoveries may reflect electrochemical growth, not bulk hydrothermal deposition.
·Drill targeting should consider stress concentration zones, not just geochemistry.
3. Reinterpret Old Workings:
·Historic mines with spotty but spectacular grades (like Hill End’s Reward shaft or Hawkins Hill) may reflect electrochemically upgraded shoots, not random nugget placement.
·Use geophysical methods (resistivity/IP) to locate analogous zones at depth.
Similar Systems – Comparative Context
Bendigo / Ballarat (VIC):
·Similar quartz-rich, tightly folded turbidite sequences.
·Frequent discovery of massive nuggets during the 1850s gold rush.
·Fold limbs and fault intersections show repeated structural reactivation—ideal for piezoelectric charging.
Beaconsfield (TAS):
·Hosted in a narrow quartz vein with sharply bounded ore shoots.
·Evidence of brittle reactivation in a carbonaceous slate package—possible electrochemical activity.
Western Australia (e.g., Widgiemooltha, Golden Mile):
Although more commonly supergene nuggets, some goldfields show quartz-hosted coarse nuggets near shear zones with microseismicity—possibly similar mechanisms in a different host.
Conclusion: Why This Hypothesis Matters for Hill End
1.Provides a physical mechanism for how large, discrete nuggets form in a quartz-hosted orogenic system—solving a long-standing mystery.
2.Aligns with known Hill End structural and fluid evolution, particularly in post-Stage IV–V fault zones.
3.Suggests a new phase of nugget growth after the main gold events (~343 Ma), driven by ongoing Great Dividing Range seismicity.
4.Introduces novel exploration criteria that could direct drilling and geophysics toward deep nugget-bearing zones.
This theory reframes Hill End as not just a historic coarse gold field, but a system where electrical and seismic forces may have shaped—and may still be shaping—its gold endowment. If proven, this opens the door to rediscovering Hill End through a new, science-led lens.
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