Originally posted by whereu:
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We use different and often contradictory sources for our knowledge and understanding, which means that we can seldom carry out robust debates. Even when we appear to agree, the contexts of our agreement are not the same. For example, for a person standing on the Earth, the Earth is still, and the moon, the sun and stars are not. The reason is that motion is relative. The debate on the Earth has been done to death with no sign of resolution or compromise because of different sources of knowledge and understanding.Can we look at an issue from a purely Biblical point of view, because the Bible is your source of knowledge and understanding? Can we please look into an example that is not just made up but actually occurs? A person sins by doing wrong against his brother or sister and goes to that brother or sister seeking reconciliation and forgiveness. That person has obtained all his understanding of God through those who have sexually abused him. That person dies without acknowledging God and repending to him. Would God forsake this person even if he repented after death?
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Wow, still the earth confusion. Get a ball (earth) Drill 3 inline equal length vertical holes - equator & tropics. Shine a distant light directly into the equator hole. Why is the equator hole fully lit & the tropic holes not ? Because it's not a flat surface, it's a ball. It's plain simple geometry ** ""repented after death?"" Luke 16:19-31 19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.