Wheres can this UPI article be found that everyone keeps referring to??
The Drudge report times out.
Flat or Globe Earth?, page-1114
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Announcement from ERM has made my day. :)
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Thanks for your post, Kam, it seems that you have a lot on your chest regarding what other faiths do, and base your arguments and faith contrast to that,
After reviewing your post, it appears to be an emotional response to various other religions, except your own. You seem to believe that your faith balances all of them. Unfortunately, the world is much more complex than that. This kind of reaction is common among certain sects and cults, as well as within the current cultural trend of wokeness, which often opposes much of history. Naturally, those holding these views may believe their actions and behaviours will set things on the right path. However, this knee-jerk reaction is a typical aspect of human nature.
Because God's work spans different eras and cultures, the message of Jesus is understood as the fulfillment of God's promises across all times. It is through Jesus that God's plan for salvation is made fully accessible and universal, providing a pathway for every individual to be reconciled with God.
No other Prophet does this, not even yours
The Bahai perspective of “the way” pays respect to all the Spiritual Traditions of the world whose Prophets or Teachers have given beautiful and goodly fruits.
The Christian perspective has tried to extinguish diversity of sacred tradition.
My dear friend, The Catholic Church acknowledges the value and goodness present in various spiritual traditions around the world. While recognizing the uniqueness of the Christian revelation, the Church respects and seeks common ground with other spiritual traditions. The Christian perspective of “the way” has oppressed indigenous spiritual and sacred heritage, and resulted in indigenous oppression leading to a generation upon generation loss of identity amongst the indigenous, but still, that doesn’t negate That Jesus is the only way and truth
The Christian perspective has tried to extinguish diversity of sacred tradition.
There you go Kam, more incentive to give up on Christianity, the fact is this is very short sighted as the working of the world is far more complex, any prophet wort his salt should know this
No single tradition has a monopoly on efforts to suppress or promote certain beliefs. Throughout history, various cultures and religions have both suppressed and embraced diversity, often influenced by political, social, or theological motives. Throughout history, various religious and political powers have sought to consolidate their authority by promoting certain beliefs and sometimes suppressing or marginalizing other traditions.
The Christian perspective injects words such as “last of all” into verses such as Hebrews 1:1 where no translation has those words in this verse to maintain this sense of superiority.
Your looking at the king James, I’m not into that, I prefer Catholic ones and this is what they say
“God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son...”
In the Original Greek Text, The Greek phrase often translated as "these last days" is enēmeroi (ἐν ἡμέραις ταύταις
, meaning "in these days," or "the final period."
What your issue, as when the Bible speaks of "these last days" or "the final period," it refers to the era marked by the culmination of God's redemptive plan through Jesus Christ. In Hebrews 1:1-2, for example, the phrase indicates that Christ's arrival represents the peak or culmination of God's communication and salvation efforts.
The Christian perspective says that "full revelation was brought by His Son" knowing full well that the Spirit of Truth (not the Son) will guide us unto all truth.
My dear friend, very shallow understanding of scripture, did your prophet tell you this
In biblical theology, Jesus' incarnation and earthly ministry provided the fullest revelation of God's nature and salvation plan. However, the Holy Spirit continues to guide believers into deeper understanding and application of that truth.
The Spirit does not replace or diminish Jesus' revelation but rather guides believers into the full meaning and application of what Christ revealed in Jesus
That is why no more prophets are necessary as the Holy Spirit will guide all into truth, simple
How well is Christianity doing in changing humanity into Gods image?
Geez Kam, you’re scraping the bottom of the barrel, by your logic then you faith should be booming beyond what humanity has ever seen, the reality is humanity is called to be transformed into God's image through love, holiness, and imitation of Christ. The transformation is an ongoing process through out time and history, you know what the issue is Kam, that in itself requires the cooperation of individuals with God's grace. And many choose not to cooperate
So do tell how well your faith is doing in changing current events like the wars in the middle east
Wafflehead shared earlier in this thread a wonderful post about how inadequate "love thy neighbour" is as a means to change humanity into Gods image.
I don’t normally read all posts, but again you’re depending on other people to boost your faith, you need to just stick your own principle
I’ll give you my views and the church which is not coming or depending from external source as yours
Loving one's neighbour is a moral duty to act kindly, but this does not necessarily address the deeper issues of human nature, such as selfishness, pride, or spiritual brokenness. It requires promotion of good actions externally but still it might not transform the heart fundamental, it’s a transformation of the heart that is required for a real change
And that true change into God's image involves a profound inner transformation, in renewing the mind and heart through a relationship with God, notably through faith in Jesus Christ and the work of the Holy Spirit (2 Corinthians 5:17). Mere outward love without inner spiritual change may fall short of the goal of becoming like God
God's image encompasses all aspects of moral, spiritual, and relational perfection. It includes justice, holiness, humility, and truth—virtues that go beyond just loving others superficially.
Without a genuine connection to God and the Spirit’s guidance, "loving your neighbour" can become a performative act or a moral obligation that lacks true compassion. It may be used to justify self-righteousness rather than true humility and transformation.
Human effort alone, even with the command to love, is insufficient to produce the holiness and righteousness that reflect God's image. The transforming power of God's grace, through Jesus' sacrifice and the Spirit’s work, is essential.
God does not change, but He desires us to uncover His mysteries by uncovering the mysteries of the universe.
The application needs to change.
Not a problem with discovering the mysteries of the universe, but its not the core why humanity is here on this side of life, God is more interested in salvation of souls
Progress does not guarantee spiritual health or salvation. The Bible warns that without a relationship with God, human achievements are ultimately fleeting and do not satisfy the deepest human longing.
Humans seek to understand why they exist and what their life is for. Many long for a sense of significance and a reason for their existence beyond fleeting pleasures.
The desire to be genuinely loved, accepted, and to form meaningful relationships is fundamental. Humans are inherently social and long for authentic connection—both with others and with a higher power.
Life is more than just the physical world. There’s a longing for something eternal, divine, or transcendent that satisfies the soul’s hunger for everlasting fulfillment.
As Jesus repeatedly emphasized the importance of the soul. For example, in Matthew 16:26, He asks, "What will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul?" This highlights that spiritual salvation and the health of the soul are of eternal significance, far surpassing material or worldly gains.
God doesn't endorse human sacrifice today, but God endorsed many strange things in the Old Testament.
Why do you not speak out to the genocide and human genital mutilation found in the Old Testament?
Geez Kam, humanity wasn’t born into the hindsight of today, humanity learns as it progress, . The Old Testament accounts of God seemingly endorsing various practices were often accommodations to the cultural context at the time, gradually leading humanity towards a fuller understanding of divine revelation which was to come with Jesus
God communicates with us today through the Holy Spirit? .....and we have every church on earth saying it's found there.
Aren’t you saying the same thing, that is found in yours
I prefer to follow the Word of God revealed by Prophet who's given us fruits that have changed the world for the better.
Many say His impact is Christ-like.
Yes many said in the past and do today it’s Jesus, like it or not Jesus has had more impact on the transformation of the world then your prophet
If Gods overall redemptive plan is ongoing, then Jesus's work is not finished. And as you correctly say, affirming what I had said. The work of God extends BEYOND the work of Jesus in His first coming. As you say "....Gods overall plan isn't considered complete until future prophecied events occur"
Conclusion. Gods work extends beyond the work done by Jesus and His so called "last of all"
No Kam, The completion of redemption through Jesus' Death and resurrection signifies the finished work that provides salvation for all. The application of this redemption to each generation is an ongoing process carried out by the Holy Spirit, guiding individuals towards accepting and living out the truth and merit of Christ's sacrifice.
And this completion of the redemption process will be fulfilled at the end of time when Christ will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead. At that moment, the fullness of God's plan of salvation will be revealed, and the transformation of humanity into God's image will reach its ultimate perfection.
You are waiting for a "beyond all known reality" event for creation to reach its ultimate purpose.
No mate, the only reality and waiting that I’m doing if for the passing of my time until I die, that is the reality of this world, so it is also your reality and everyone else, beyond that is beyond my pay pack and yours as well, so it the advancement of science or any thing else,
The Bahai community is building creation's ultimate purpose,through the incredible and sustaining power of the Holy Spirit emanating from the Revelation of Baha'u'llah
Oh I see, and the others are not, geez Kam
In a biblical or moral context, this behaviour can also be called "self-righteousness" or "spiritual pride," especially if someone is highlighting their good actions to elevate themselves or appear morally superior.
How about doing something with the war that is going on in your prophet home land
