Kam,
Once again, instead of answering the direct question I asked, you’ve gone on a philosophical tangent to shift the focus away from your false prophet and the failed date of 1844, which you continue to dance around.
Let me ask again plainly:
If the 1844 date is shown to have no fulfillment of Daniel 8:14 and is built on misinterpretation, would you denounce Baha’u’llah as a false prophet?
You say the faith is “not reliant on 1844” — but the entire Baha’i origin comes from the Báb's claim that he was the fulfillment of Daniel’s 2300-day prophecy, which he pointed directly to 1844. That prophecy was then used to validate Baha’u’llah as the one who followed.
So yes, it absolutely is foundational to your belief system.
Without 1844, you have no Báb.
Without the Báb, you have no Baha’u’llah.
And without Baha’u’llah, your entire faith collapses.
Now, regarding your points about salvation:
Yes, salvation absolutely comes through faith in Yeshua — but true faith produces repentance and obedience. Scripture is crystal clear:
“Faith without works is dead.” — James 2:26
“Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means!” — Romans 6:1–2
No true believer would claim to follow Yeshua and live as a paedophile or in unrepentant sin. So your example is a *** — not a description of biblical salvation, but of fake faith, which Scripture itself condemns.
As for your criticism of “the Church” — no one denies there has been corruption and apathy in many Christian institutions. But salvation is not found in a denomination — it is found in Yeshua the Messiah, the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.
If you truly cared about justice, righteousness, and truth, you would stop following a man who claimed to be “God” (which is blasphemy) and instead turn to the true Son of God, whose life, death, and resurrection were prophesied in detail over 300 times.
Baha’u’llah fulfilled none.
He only contradicted Scripture and called himself the “Father,” when Yeshua said:
“Call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven.” — Matthew 23:9
I still care for your soul, Kam.
But I urge you to stop deflecting, stop twisting the Word, and finally answer the original challenge:
If 1844 is shown false, will you denounce Baha’u’llah?
Because if you won’t… then we’re not talking about truth anymore — we’re talking about blind allegiance.
And that never leads to salvation.
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