It dosent work like that Z We could go back and forwards all day with questions in this regard. The way a discussion works,which unfortunately you do not understand. You look at foundations and origins of belief first then branch out into individual points. I tried to engage you several times on this subject,but you dont feel comfortable in taking part in a teo way discussion,where both participants take part in the discussion,not just one asking questions and presenting,without looking at the alternative point of view. I.e im too busy to look,but yet say to ppm,although we disagree on a lot of things,im interested to see why you believe what you do? Seems that does not apply equally to myself.