"So what you and the Bible are saying here is that the natural man might read the Bible and think it's all literal because he is not capable of receiving, perceiving or understanding, the things of the Spirit of God.
The natural man can not conceive that God is speaking to him in a spiritual language, he reads the words of the Bible and takes them to be literal because he has not prepared himself truely know the spiritual language, (the true meaning of scripture) and he never will as long as he only sees the Bible as a literal rendering of impossible events, because they are spiritually discerned, not literally discerned.
Thank you for clearly this up for us once and for all."
No,you know that isnt what im saying at all,its actually the opposite,what you posted is a perfect example of you making the bible fit what you need it too fit.
The example has been given to you a number of times,which you are willingly ignorant of,and contradict,what the leader of christianity taught himself,and spiritualise the plain clear words away,by applying them as metaphors,symbolism,allegories etc etc.
Jesus clearly taught the he is the only way to his father God,so you then start the name calling,like fundamentalist etc etc as if this furthers your own point of view,for the simple fact,i believe the words Jesus said.
He taught he is the only way,so of course because you have a point of view that conflicts with the plain statement of Jesus,you have to explain them away to mean something completely different than their obvious and intended meaning.
beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself Luke 24.27
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Matthew 5.17
The phrase "My sheep hear my voice" is from John 10:27 in the which emphasizes the relationship between Jesus and his followers, indicating that they recognize and follow him. This verse highlights the assurance of eternal life for those who belong to him.
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: John 10.27
Look at what you wrote in reply to me You spiritualize away the plain truth of the bible,you appeal to a prophet of the bahai faith to translate the bible,instead of using Jesus words himself,no need to put spin or reword the plain words he spoke in regards to his role of salvation,and being the WAY,the truth and the life.
Which means ONLY You can have a problem with that all you like,you and whereu can sing the praises of the last and new pope trying to bring faiths together for the sake of unity,sounds all lovely.
But the fact is,unity can only be founded as christ taught,on the truth about him,the foundation he gave of himself being the son of God become flesh and blood .
You dismiss the plain truths of the bible,you and others biggest problem,is those that accept the bible as the word of God and their only guide to what is,and what is not truth.
The bible admonishes us all the way through so we cannot be decieved by false doctrine like what you are teaching,
To the law and to the testimony,if the speak not according to this,there is no light in them Isiah 8.20
I have nothing against you personally but what you say and teach goes outside these guidelines given to us.
You try to say what im saying is from the carnal heart,but yet contradict yourself by writing such things as this below,which actually shows you are the one guilty of the same thing you accuse me of,you appeal to man,and mans wisdom,not Gods!
"but you can bet the house on any scriptural belief that contradicts science as being manmade imagination arising from another tragic literal rendition again.
So now you know, people are using intelligence and all resources available to try to get a clearer picture of what the Bible is saying and it has to stop. Snakes can talk sometimes and the earth can be flooded above the highest mountain and bounce back like nothing happened in a few months, two of every animal can be gathered on to a boat and go back to their own countries after the flood and breed back all the those lost animals with no inbreeding problems at all"
Here and the other statement you made here totally dismisses the bible narration to allegorical etc etc in typical gnostic fashion.
As has been pointed out to you,but ignored,when the bible says in Hebrew,God created the heavens and the earth in 6days(yom) in the hebrew language,yom,the word means a literal 24hr period,this is why it says and the morning and the evening were the first day.
But no,you want to put spin on this,why use the words like this,if that is not their intended meaning?
You appeal to the science of men who most of these so called men of standing this world had occultic backgrounds and bias that influenced their conclusions and theories about the materialistic model of the world.
Everything always originates back to religous belief etc
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
2 corinthians 4.4
But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
1 cor 1.27
You would have to be blind to read the bible,and not see in the stories the leaders,the great men of this world were always in the wrong,and those that followed the priciples God laid out in the law and testimonies were seen as the enemies.
Just as you portray and appeal to the science and beliefs doctrines of men as your guide to interpret the bible
So it is actually you who appeals to the carnal heart and nature of man to decipher the truth or not,instead of a thus saith the lord.
