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03/06/25

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Originally posted by zbusc: ↑

""the bible might as well say Ishmael"
Do you see that bait and switch there?""
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Yes, Ishamel was born to Hagar before Isaac & Esau to Rebecca,
Which part of their text have I misunderstood ?
I didn't watch the clip.
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The Bible very well could say, “Abraham I loved, and every other man I hated.” God chose Abraham’s son Isaac instead of Abraham’s son Ishmael. The Bible very well could say, “Isaac I loved, and Ishmael I hated.” Romans chapter 9 makes it abundantly clear that loving Jacob and hating Esau was entirely related to which of them God chose. Hundreds of years after Jacob and Esau had died, the Israelites and Edomites became bitter enemies. The Edomites often aided Israel’s enemies in attacks on Israel. Esau’s descendants brought God’s curse upon themselves. Genesis 27:29 tells Israel, “May nations serve you and peoples bow down to you. Be lord over your brothers, and may the sons of your mother bow down to you. May those who curse you be cursed and those who bless you be blessed.”

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The whole explanation is watered down and contorted. No, it could not very well have said every other man I have hated. The older was rejected for a specific reason that got questions and the churches avoid.

I didnt watch it either
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