some posters virtually calling these professional managers liers
They seem to be unaware that there is a world of difference between what commentators can say and what the directors can say. If a director misleads the market with incorrect information, they are disbarred, massively fined, and may even go to jail.The company may be suspended even.
Analysts and others can say what they like, no responsibility at all. They can suit their own agenda, and obviously many do. Make up your own mind who to believe.
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