re: ny sign income to lum > timing If you are right, that's great Oak. Gives Lumacom an extra $125k USD, = AUD160k from what I have indicated. Did you see that in an ann. Oak, or do you know that from discussions with knowledgeable people? I was given an indication of 15%-25% which is a standard percentage for these types of deals. Usually 25% for video, as in Barcelona, and 15% for static billboards