Hi akq, if you are refering to me -- the answer is that I am not...

Hi akq,
if you are refering to me -- the answer is that I am not trying to sell PEN to any-one.

I bought PEN the first time a long time ago, and I traded them down from .09 to .036, during the GFC and that is what they owe me today.

I am in this business to make money, -- and lately I am getting very good at it.

Someone suggested to me a few days ago that "buy-and-hold" is the way to go.

I have,the last two days bought and sold PEN shares on the T+3 program where I now own more that 12500 shares that haven't cost me a brass razoo[if that is how you spell it]

I trade PEN shares [and others], nearly everyday.

But I got sprung yesterday, -- OK, I oppologise for that.

But with reference to k------17 I was trying to give another approach to this business, -- if it is taken up I really care one way or the other,

If any-one else cares to enquire, I can give my calculation and hope they will be of some assistance.

cheers,

T.D.

I was trying to help a fellow trader/holder along the way.