And indicator like massive volume can show a turn around or a...

And indicator like massive volume can show a turn around or a stall or a pump or a dump is about to happen. The rest at the moment is not significant for us until a pump up starts. Or a dump and so on. even then good luck in getting meaning from such a small group of trades that could be staged anyway. Lucky menzies isn't in it anymore if he was doing something that got him banned through ASIC. Or is he still in it and can he still direct others to execute his orders now? That would be as good as still being involved directly. Im wondering if his involvment should be considered an extra risk in trading esi then on top of the usual risks.