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These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
regards
Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
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The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.
Their record indicates that they can't feel shame. With these "piggy backs" now approved, they will obtain even more power. Small investors, unless there one of their mates, will be the losers.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
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It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
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I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
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I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
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We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
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I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
(0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
(0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
(0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
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If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
Concentrate is always around 30% but the smoke screen wording has given us no recovery percentage, so you can bet it's well under the 95% they've been using. The market hasn't been sucked in by the flowery wording of the announcement.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
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He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview
piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
Posted by bigdump
IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
Post #529199 - in reply to msg. #529188 - splitview
so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529201 - in reply to msg. #529199 - splitview
fark u 2 fool ramper
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
Posted by trade4profit
IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview
diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
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Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
Posted by bendigo
Post #486328 - start of thread - splitview
Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
Posted by NR
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all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
Posted by Dezneva
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Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
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These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:40 - 234 reads
Posted by Rocker
IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
Post #529215 - in reply to msg. #529204 - splitview
well picked up T4P
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This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
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The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
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CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
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Salty - howsabout an email update please imo!!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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Lots of reading today!
So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......
[email protected]
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I hear ya mate.....
....the tards will keep tarding
Also found this interesting:predict wallumbilla hub prices for the next 10 years
Predicting natural gas prices at the Wallumbilla Gas Supply Hub over the next 10 years (2025–2035) is challenging due to the volatility of energy markets, influenced by global and domestic factors such as LNG demand, renewable energy transitions, production costs, and policy changes. Since specific long-term forecasts for Wallumbilla Hub prices are not readily available in the provided data or public sources, I’ll construct a reasoned estimate based on available information, including LNG netback price trends, global natural gas price forecasts, and Australian market dynamics. All prices will be in AUD per gigajoule (GJ), and assumptions will be clearly stated.Key Assumptions- LNG Netback Influence: Wallumbilla prices are closely tied to LNG netback prices, which reflect the export parity price for Australian gas based on Asian LNG spot and contract prices, minus transportation and liquefaction costs. The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) provides historical and forward LNG netback prices for Wallumbilla, which serve as a proxy for domestic gas prices.
- Historical Price Baseline: Historical volume-weighted average (VWA) prices at Wallumbilla, such as $8.30/GJ in March 2017 for SEQ trades, suggest a range of $8–$12/GJ in recent years, adjusted for inflation and market conditions.
- Global Price Correlation: Australian gas prices are influenced by global benchmarks like Henry Hub (US) and Dutch TTF (Europe). Long-term forecasts for these markets provide guidance, though Wallumbilla prices typically carry a premium due to LNG export exposure.
- Renewable Transition: Australia’s push for net-zero emissions by 2050 will increase renewable energy adoption, potentially reducing domestic gas demand in power generation but sustaining industrial and LNG export demand. This may moderate price growth.
- Inflation and Currency: AUD prices will be affected by inflation (assumed at 2.5% annually) and AUD/USD exchange rate fluctuations (assumed stable at ~0.67 USD/AUD for simplicity).
- Supply and Demand: East coast gas production is expected to remain stable or decline slightly due to maturing fields, while LNG exports will continue to compete with domestic needs, supporting prices.
- Policy and Market Reforms: Initiatives to boost Wallumbilla Hub liquidity, such as ASX futures contracts and market reforms, may stabilize prices but are unlikely to drastically lower them.
Methodology- Short-Term (2025–2027): Use ACCC’s forward LNG netback prices (2-year short-term and 5-year medium-term) as a starting point, adjusted for domestic market factors.
- Medium-Term (2028–2030): Extrapolate from global natural gas price forecasts (e.g., Henry Hub, TTF) and apply a premium for Australian LNG linkage.
- Long-Term (2031–2035): Account for renewable energy impacts, declining domestic demand, and sustained export demand, with conservative growth rates.
- Conversion: Global forecasts are often in USD/MMBtu or USD/Mcf. 1 MMBtu ≈ 1.055 GJ, and 1 Mcf ≈ 1.055 GJ. AUD prices are calculated using the assumed exchange rate.
Step-by-Step Forecast1. Short-Term (2025–2027)- ACCC LNG Netback Data: The ACCC provides forward short-term (2-year) and medium-term (5-year) LNG netback prices for Wallumbilla, based on Asian LNG spot and oil-linked contract prices.
- Historical netback prices (2016–2025) have ranged from ~$6–$15/GJ, peaking during global energy crises (e.g., 2022).
- Forward short-term prices (2025–2027) are not explicitly quoted in the data but are expected to align with recent trends (~$10–$12/GJ), given stable Asian LNG demand and moderate global prices.
- Global Context:
- Henry Hub forecasts for 2025–2026 range from $3.4–$4.6/MMBtu (~$5.1–$6.9/GJ at 0.67 AUD/USD).
- Dutch TTF forecasts for 2025–2026 are 11.5–10.5 USD/MMBtu ($17.2–$15.7/GJ), but Australian prices are typically lower due to proximity to Asian markets.
- Wallumbilla Estimate: Assuming a $2–$3/GJ premium over Henry Hub (due to LNG export linkage), Wallumbilla prices are estimated at $10–$12/GJ for 2025–2027, consistent with recent domestic spot price ranges.
2. Medium-Term (2028–2030)- Global Forecasts:
- Deloitte projects Henry Hub at $5.4/Mcf ($5.1/GJ) in 2030, rising to $4.6/MMBtu ($6.9/GJ) in 2032.
- TTF is projected at $10.65/Mcf ($10.1/GJ) in 2030, increasing to $11.1/Mcf ($10.5/GJ) in 2032.
- World Bank estimates Henry Hub at $4/MMBtu (~$6/GJ) by 2030.
- Australian Market:
- LNG export demand remains strong, supporting prices, but domestic demand may soften due to renewable energy growth in power generation.
- ACCC’s medium-term netback prices (up to 2030) are expected to stabilize around $11–$13/GJ, reflecting oil-linked LNG contracts and moderate global demand growth.
- Wallumbilla Estimate: With a $2–$4/GJ premium over Henry Hub and alignment with netback trends, prices are projected at $11–$14/GJ for 2028–2030, adjusted for 2.5% annual inflation (~$12–$15/GJ in nominal terms by 2030).
3. Long-Term (2031–2035)- Global Trends:
- Post-2030, global natural gas demand growth slows in developed economies due to renewables, but industrial and developing market demand (e.g., Asia) sustains prices.
- Deloitte’s forecast for Henry Hub at $6.55/Mcf ($6.2/GJ) by 2040 suggests gradual price increases (2% annually post-2030).
- TTF and UK NBP prices are projected to rise modestly, reaching $11–$12/Mcf ($10.4–$11.4/GJ) by 2032.
- Australian Context:
- Declining east coast gas production (e.g., Surat-Bowen Basin) may tighten supply, supporting prices.
- Renewable energy reduces gas use in electricity but not in industrial sectors (e.g., alumina, chemicals), maintaining demand.
- LNG exports continue to set a price floor via netback pricing.
- Wallumbilla Estimate: Assuming a $3–$5/GJ premium over global benchmarks and 2.5% inflation, prices are projected at $13–$16/GJ in 2031–2035 (nominal terms: ~$15–$19/GJ by 2035).
Year-by-Year Forecast (Nominal AUD/GJ)YearPrice Range (AUD/GJ)Notes1 202510–12Aligned with ACCC short-term netback, stable LNG demand.2 202610–12Continued global price moderation, domestic demand steady.3 202710.5–12.5Slight upward pressure from supply constraints.4 202811–13Transition to medium-term netback trends, inflation adjustment.5 202911.5–14LNG export demand sustains prices, renewable impact begins.6 203012–15Peak of medium-term forecast, supply-demand balance tightens.7 203112.5–15.5Gradual price growth, declining domestic gas production.8 203213–16Renewable transition reduces power sector demand.9 203313.5–16.5Stable LNG exports, inflation drives nominal price increase.10 203414–17Supply constraints offset by renewable substitution.11 203515–19Long-term price floor set by LNG netback, inflation at 2.5%.Valuation Impact on 150 BCF 2P ReservesUsing the midpoint of the forecasted price range for each year and the methodology from the previous response (80% recovery, 60% net after costs, 50% NPV discount), the value of 150 BCF (158,250,000 GJ) of 2P reserves evolves as follows:- 2025: Midpoint $11/GJ → Gross $1.74B → Net NPV ~$418M AUD.
- 2030: Midpoint $13.5/GJ → Gross $2.14B → Net NPV ~$513M AUD.
- 2035: Midpoint $17/GJ → Gross $2.69B → Net NPV ~$645M AUD.
Risks and Uncertainties- Upside Risks: Global energy crises, delays in renewable rollout, or tighter east coast supply could push prices higher.
- Downside Risks: Faster renewable adoption, weaker Asian LNG demand, or new gas discoveries could depress prices.
- Policy Changes: Carbon pricing or export controls could alter domestic price dynamics.
- Data Limitations: Lack of specific 10-year Wallumbilla forecasts requires reliance on global proxies and netback trends, introducing uncertainty.
Final AnswerWallumbilla Hub natural gas prices are projected to range from $10–$12/GJ in 2025 to $15–$19/GJ in 2035 (nominal terms), driven by LNG netback pricing, stable export demand, and moderate supply constraints, tempered by renewable energy growth. The value of 150 BCF of 2P reserves would rise from ~$418M AUD in 2025 to ~$645M AUD in 2035, assuming constant recovery and cost factors. For precise forecasting, consult industry reports or ACCC netback updates.
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