I am with SB - he may not be, but I am, Shocked and I am Disappointed by the amount of disrespect shown on this group by a minority of posters.
You will mostly have legitimate points of view (except those obviously being paid from foreign government sources ('FGS's)). Your methods of discussion fall far short of legitimacy.
But what I object to is the childish language of those who merely want to bait others.
There are better ways to learn, better ways to contribute.
I urge the MODERATORS always to ensure that the tone of this important tool called Hot Copper is kept above the gutter and outside of the playground.
If that is your brief already, well you need to lift your game.
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