I always find the actions of shorters interesting. I think you...

I always find the actions of shorters interesting. I think you are correct they push the price down at the very end of the day to take that half a cent or one cent lower. In this case if they are expecting bad news would they not hold their powder for the quarterly release and really exploit a panicked market? Similarly if it was good news they would be exiting their positions. So this to me at least is clear as mud. Bring on the quarterly. There have been no major announcements which would have had to have been released so it comes down to what volume of sales have there been and have incremental price increase in some flake qualities helped to stem the cash flow problem yet?