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Originally posted by Parsifal ↑

this article makes more points than just the germophobia which is the headline. That headline is clearly regarded as more likely to capture readers than the alternative “Melbourne’s distance from the equator makes it....”. Or “researcher suggests we let our kids get exposure to peanuts around six months” or “let’s go play in the dirt”

The view that we overspray, over clean and avoid dirt has been around a while. There’s been evidence that babies exposed to their mothers excrement and other body fluid during birth have better immunity than those plucked through cesarean birth. Breastfeeding is more protective than sterilised bottles. Eating dirt brings benefits even if eating snails can kill

we seem to live in a world that is frightening to so many people that they set up all sorts of protective mechanisms which bring their own consequences. I’ve pondered a lot on some of this since I had a partner who used to say he found having a body a gross inconvenience, and certainly to make bravado statements to imply life was pointless. Yet I never met anyone so obsessed with staying alive and eliminating germs (except when he couldn’t be bothered with housework and left a weeks worth of dishes festering in the sink until the cleaner came to rescue him and make it look as though he was clean)

I then read some interesting articles about narcissism and there is one brand that are called somatic narcissists which is an almost obsessive interest in keeping alive - and cleanliness was part of that. It made sense against the backdrop in which I lived even if it was just a theory

which takes us to the article. There is a general view that we are seeing a rise in narcissistic behaviour - that the over praise and helicopter parenting style favoured by so many may well be failing to help lift people beyond what Freud regarded as a natural developmental step into adult behaviour. In other words it’s no better than the neglectful, critical parenting style that once existed in spades.

so maybe combined with modern understanding of how illnesses spread we have created another monster. The misunderstood consequences of human actions.

The other thing the article talks about which is worthy of discussion is the role of vitamin d. I know it’s not popular among those who prefer pharmacological solutions but there seems to be a fair bit of evidence that vitamin d levels matter in protecting and nurturing immune systems. As we shift activities indoors and avoid sun we may well be harming ourselves. Take away the exposure to the thousands of microbes and viruses that exist in earths soupy mix and limit it to those found inside a house and maybe that exacerbates the problem.

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I think there are enough studies out to back up your points on being locked inside and social distancing i.e not shaking hands etc. No sunlight and no vitamin D and no handshaking hugs etc means good virus and bacteria are not transferred. This translates to weaker natural immunity. Nature knows this, that's why it was driving all the kids back to Bondi. It's evolution and Darwin's Theory in practice.

I think we need to get rid of a germophobes like Dr Murphy and get back to living and a more realistic approach on coronaviruses. Life's too short to be "Chicken Little" and not go outside because the sky may call on you.

As I've posted before young boys are normally very scared and frightened, then they grow into courage and bravery, but then regress to being scared old men. I think the world is currently being run by scared old men.

We need to have a Doctors going back to do what they do best, Treating Sick People and stop having a say how the other 99.9996% of the population live. If they don't, the world will implode and we could possibly have billions perish if we continue to destroy our economies. Viruses and bacteria have been co-existing with us long time March 2020.

What a joke it is when Morrison says he's going to fire the economy back up again. Reminds me of when I was a kid on the farm trying to fire up the old Massey Ferguson tractor which had been parked for months, wasn't that easy using a crank handle after the battery was dead. No magic push-button restart.

I think Bett Midler summed it up best.

It's the heart afraid of breaking, that never learns to dance
It's the dream afraid of waking, that never takes the chance
It's the one who won't be taken, who cannot seem to give
And the soul afraid of dying, that never learns to live