if you don't kind me saying...most of that is a load of twaddle...

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    if you don't kind me saying...most of that is a load of twaddle ..world may have changed a little, but owning wagons no big money spinner...shipping, especially around Australia, nah!

    international shipping used to be notoriously low returns , but had a few years in the sun...declining off highs now..but yes, cyclical. Chinese blew market away 6 or 7 years ago with increased availability of super carriers apparently. How would Graincorp be able to employ equivalent of slave labor on ships? that is how they make it pay, plus low cost of capital

    cement ships, yeah maybe..and yes I knew they made money loading ships for competitors, and volume is key...but if its all feed wheat, there will likely be less exports
 
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