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    God does the choosing of the elect, that is correct a God focused not man focused Gospel.

    Romans chor 8 (NIV)

    God Works In All Things
    28And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. 29For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; 30and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.…

    …31What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? 32He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things? 33Who will bring a charge against God's elect? God is the one who justifies;…


    So we have established that Jesus had the nature of God prior to Jesus emptying Himself to become a servant. There is nowhere in the scripture that said the Father emptied Jesus or that Jesus was emptied to take on and BECOME the humble form of a servant. It was Jesus that clearly voluntarily Changed his nature from that of God to BECOME humility in the nature of a servant cloaked in human form.

    THE blessed apostle Pauls teachings prevents the heresy that Jesus was an Angel who are ministering Spirits whom nature is that of a servant...a servant of God.

    Jesus clearly had to change to adopt such a servants nature. So in the beginning Jesus could not have possessed the servant Nature of an Angel

    What else do we know of in the beginning, we know: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    Is it only found with the Writer of Hebrews and the Apostle Paul that identifies Jesus nature as God such as in the Carmen Christi passages, no he repeats the deity of Christ.

    Titus 2:13
    New International Version (NIV)
    13 while we wait for the blessed hope—the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,

    The writer of the Gospel of John

    John 1:18
    New International Version (NIV)
    18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.


    This is the bookend verse to

    John 1:1
    New International Version (NIV)

    1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    The insertion of the indefinite article 'a' god by the Jehovah Witness in John 1:1 to counter the translation of the Greek phrase "Theos en ho logos" correctly translated as "The Word was God", is an attempt to hide the deity of Christ. The problem is the Jehovah Witnesses don't apply the rule consistently because further down the Chapter God the Father has no article yet ''a" Father is not inserted. You also have John a monotheistic Jew who the Jehovah Witnesses claim is now inserting Henotheistic teachings of God and gods. Mr Gordon the scripture is clear there is only One God and no other, none with a little g nor just mighty god along side the Almighty God. This is not monotheism

    Yet taking that aside New world translators missed the fact that Hebrews 1 :10-12 identify Jesus as Jehovah God in psalms 102 :25-27

    Does it stop there no, here is just another example.

    2 Peter 1:1
    New International Version (NIV)
    1 Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ,
    To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:

    Who is our God and Saviour in the verse above, well it's Jesus Christ.

    Who does Isaiah tell us is our God and Saviour.


    Isaiah 45:21
    New International Version (NIV)
    21 Declare what is to be, present it—
    let them take counsel together.
    Who foretold this long ago,
    who declared it from the distant past?
    Was it not I, the Lord?
    And there is no God apart from me,
    a righteous God and a Savior;
    there is none but me.


    It is Yahweh and none other that is God and Saviour,

    To claim the non deity of Christ is a reductionist argument of Scripture or you need to alter passages but then again with the Watchtower they have not been diligent in editing out all passages that identify Jesus as Jehovah God. There are more Mr Gordon missed in the NWT.

    Sola Scriptura and Tota Scriptura, disregard this and it's like the clay trying to dictate to the Potter what he is to fashion. Man may think he can, build towers from clay, showing his control over creativity. but it won't stop the just Potter fashioning vessels for common use.






 
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