I wouldn't consider those examples manipulation, but the price...

I wouldn't consider those examples manipulation, but the price setting on the other side is. It's more about big money controlling the market.

Think Bunnings dropping their prices to the point where they were at a loss to take out Masters. Once Masters were broke things go back to normal.

Big money can destroy a sound business by manipulating the market. It happens all the time.

There's legal ways companies can do this especially when there's no regulations in place to stop such activity. Unfortunately this is the nature of business in this system and if there's serious money to be made or lost, big money will control it to their favour.

GP Morgan took over a bank that had a huge amount of short contracts in silver. Do you think this is just coincidence that silver to gold ratio is at the extreme and JPM trader has confessed and they're under investigation? All while they are actually hoarding silver at ridiculous levels?