Hi @DonaldFrump , A lot of dribble on this thread most of the time so a lot of posters are on ignore . As for what interests me in the physical metals space i traded a couple of goldies for silver when the ratio was at 90 early last month . I dont buy much these days , i did all that many years ago when they were giving the stuff away at what you would say today are ridiculously low prices. The large bullion companies are making a killing right now on the premiums they charge . It is a bit more of a hobby for me today to visit small bullion exchanges and coin shops picking up some junk silver , buy backs and a few sovereigns at close to spot , as well , checkout pawn shops as those guys are only interested in cash and want to move stuff on ,you often get a deal with them. If you hold it you own it , you cant go wrong with PM's.