Dub the last post was information, breath of fresh air, not the bottom bias opinion but dyor as also maybe good. Dub what a good reference m good info post. -and yes Trent you are a vested S & P player, but as so, up with its info. - and how as aldo and others also with better brain than wah suggested the weird S& P Dow etc, going up in so rough financial waters??? I may leave S& P to you trent and them but how is the Robin Hooder sheep not aware of their money??? They are not even maneuvering on defensive stock or markets, Hertz, planes & even cruise ships. The After payers will one day pay, and we were approaching a real event ironically (gold way up) just be before the virus, - now virus. We are again approaching a real event, unless a president plays a TRUMP and then that event again is kicked DOWn the road. That event may need to occur and recover with still time to look pretty, before the election of a NEW leader. Seems unlikely that even their (big money) choice in stooge stimulus providing leader, will get any more stimulus before the election. After election always new leader with a spend of trillions = normal. But do not rule out a TRUMP as a win, could be as simple as war or all getting a 10% pay rise, as wages have been flat, needed inflation, & GROWTH DYOR as disclaimer***