Wheres can this UPI article be found that everyone keeps referring to??
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These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
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Sharenot so stupid now Up 10% Gobs baby, when's the big sell off due? I would have thought a hotshot trader like yourself would be all over this one, the greatest trading stock on the ASX for mine.
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Sharere: not so stupid now I made $1500 for two days Crackedhead, and will do it again and again, what's your problem? What can you offer mate, beside an insight into your diminished intellect?
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Sharere: not so stupid now Yeah, right peanut, aren't you the mega trader? Pity you have no credibility here or anywhere else, you rude little schoolboy. Get a job and stop bugging people....
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Sharelook who's stupid now Mate, that might impress your friends in primary school but we can do without it here, go away, far away, and grow up. Just another multi-nicked dickhead aren't you?
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Sharere: not so stupid now**hey big ears**** You got me there big fella,
I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
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Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
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ShareThere are infinite ways to lose money......infinite ways. Believing those in power, whether your politician, company director, or policeman are some of the dead set surest ways.
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Sharesandune, you come across as being so deluded by hate.
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ShareVery direct, and good post. It's only others that will feel the shame for the directors TSS.
A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.
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I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
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Sharerogerm, while you've deciphered the good and bad posters, have you also pigeon holed the ones that have fallen in love with the stock and reject any opinion other than the one they want to hear?
It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
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ShareSo you can see both sides of the story matty.
I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
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ShareAgree seuss.
I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
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ShareI know. Maybe I didn't explain myself very well.
There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
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Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
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Canada's Contribution to Congo's Wars
Canadian mining companies among those under review
by Zahra Moloo
The Dominion - http://www.dominionpaper.ca
The Congolese government surprised many when it announced early last year that it would be conducting a review of 63 mining contracts that were signed during the Second Congo War.
The review aimed to revisit the conditions under which mining concessions and contracts were granted during the bloodiest years of the conflict, which is also known as Africa’s World War, during which as many as 5.4 million people have been killed since 1998.
It is expected that the review will call for the re-negotiation of about 25 mining contracts and the possible cancellation of about 22 others. The release of the review was originally scheduled for October, but has been delayed since fighting broke out in the east of the country, displacing about half a million people.
The Second Congo War was fueled in large part by a scramble for resources. The war involved eight African states, multiple rebel groups and several very powerful multinational companies, among them Canadian companies. The war officially came to an end in 2003; conflict remains prevalent throughout the country; and according to the International Rescue Committee, 45,000 people die each month from war-related causes.
Congolese newspaper Le Phare published leaked results of the review in November 2007, which revealed that several mining contracts would be re-negotiated or canceled.
Following reports in the media about the contracts, mining companies with interests in the Congo on the London, Toronto and New York stock exchanges saw a sudden drop in their stock prices, an indication of the importance of Congo’s resources to foreign investors.
Among the companies whose contracts are being reviewed are Canadian-Australian company Anvil Mining, Anglogold Ashanti (described as “Africa’s biggest gold miner”), BHP Billiton, and Freeport McMoRan, a company that has invested in the Tenke Fungurume mine, in which Vancouver based company Lundin Mining has a 24.75 per cent stake.
The kind of abuses that these companies are alleged to have engaged in during and after the war years makes the re-negotiation or cancellation of their contracts seem long overdue.
Anvil Mining employees were taken to Congolese courts
in June 2007 over allegations that they had provided logistical assistance and ground transportation to the Congolese Armed Forces during an assault on a fishing town called Kilwa in October 2004 in which 70 to 100 civilians were killed.
According to a report by MiningWatch Canada and Entraide Missionnaire, the company’s vehicles were used, among other things, to remove corpses in the aftermath of the assault.
Despite multiple eyewitness testimonies, the company employees were acquitted. The trial was criticized by the UN and several human rights NGOs, including the UK-based human rights NGO Global Witness, who said that Congolese authorities had blocked investigations into the massacre for an entire year; witnesses and victims were intimidated; and a military prosecutor who refused to drop the charges against the employees was transferred to another jurisdiction.
Even more damning evidence of human rights abuses by a company whose contract is being reviewed was exposed by Human Rights Watch in 2005 through a report entitled The Curse of Gold.
The report revealed that in 2002, AngloGold Ashanti – a company partnered with Canada’s Barrick Gold – was negotiating with two rebel groups, the UPC (Hema Union des Patriotes Congolais) and the FNI (Front des Nationalists Integrationnistes) to have access to gold-abundant areas that were out of control of the central government in Kinshasa.
At the time, these rebel groups were carrying out massacres of civilians in the hundreds; The UPC killed about 800 civilians from late 2002 to early 2003, while the FNI forces killed some 500 civilians in May 2003 in a “48-day war.” In return for granting concessions to the company, the FNI were provided with logistical, transportation and housing assistance.
Journalists Keith Harmon Snow and David Barouski go so far as to claim that Human Rights Watch did not reveal the most damning evidence against AngloGold. They allege that the company sent its top lawyers into the country to protect rebel militia leaders.
Further damning evidence implicating mining companies in human rights abuses was made public by the UN in a report issued in 2002 detailing which companies were involved.
The current re-negotiation of contracts is partly a response to the public outcry over these abuses and has been closely watched by civil society organizations that have expressed concern at the secrecy surrounding the process. But what does the review actually mean for the mining companies under scrutiny? Will such a process lead to a decrease in the actual number of Congolese citizens that die in the thousands every month?
The Congolese government's controversial decision to scrutinize mining contracts can be seen as a defiant act against the foreign domination of resources in the Congo. In fact, the Congolese government stated that it wants to increase its share in the Tenke Fungurume mine, which contains the world’s largest unexploited deposits of copper and cobalt.
Lundin Mining, which has a 24.75 per cent stake in the project, claimed in an article published in the Globe and Mail that such a demand would make the mine economically unfeasible. Human rights and land claim issues remain unresolved in the Tenke project. Artisanal miners in the area of the mine are resisting relocating the source of their livelihood to give way for the mining concession.
Beyond its symbolic importance, the renegotiation process may simply transfer resources from foreign mining companies to the Congolese government elite, with little or no benefit actually transferring to the millions of Congolese survivors that have been widowed, raped, brutalized and displaced by years of war over the resources under the land on which they live.
Carina Tertsakian, spokeswoman for Global Witness, notes that many officials in the Congolese transitional government that was set up in 2006 are the same people that established contracts with these mining companies in the first place, making a fair outcome of the review process questionable.
Here in Canada, resistance to mining companies like Barrick Gold has taken the form of organized grassroots actions as well as advocacy by environmental and human rights organizations. During the Congo review process, The Halifax Initiative has been pressuring the Canadian government to stop supporting the Tenke Project, which has been deemed illegal by the review process.
Meanwhile, a coalition of Congolese and human rights NGOs has called upon the Congolese government to conduct negotiations in an open and fair process. “The ultimate aim of this exercise should be to ensure that the Congolese people can benefit from their country’s wealth – a right which they have been denied for decades,” said the NGOs.
“The government should guarantee that the additional profits which result from this review are channeled into the country’s long-term development.”
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Canada's Contribution to Congo's Wars
Canadian mining companies among those under review
by Zahra Moloo
The Dominion - http://www.dominionpaper.ca
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The Congolese government surprised many when it announced early last year that it would be conducting a review of 63 mining contracts that were signed during the Second Congo War.
The review aimed to revisit the conditions under which mining concessions and contracts were granted during the bloodiest years of the conflict, which is also known as Africa’s World War, during which as many as 5.4 million people have been killed since 1998.
It is expected that the review will call for the re-negotiation of about 25 mining contracts and the possible cancellation of about 22 others. The release of the review was originally scheduled for October, but has been delayed since fighting broke out in the east of the country, displacing about half a million people.
The Second Congo War was fueled in large part by a scramble for resources. The war involved eight African states, multiple rebel groups and several very powerful multinational companies, among them Canadian companies. The war officially came to an end in 2003; conflict remains prevalent throughout the country; and according to the International Rescue Committee, 45,000 people die each month from war-related causes.
Congolese newspaper Le Phare published leaked results of the review in November 2007, which revealed that several mining contracts would be re-negotiated or canceled.
Following reports in the media about the contracts, mining companies with interests in the Congo on the London, Toronto and New York stock exchanges saw a sudden drop in their stock prices, an indication of the importance of Congo’s resources to foreign investors.
Among the companies whose contracts are being reviewed are Canadian-Australian company Anvil Mining, Anglogold Ashanti (described as “Africa’s biggest gold miner”), BHP Billiton, and Freeport McMoRan, a company that has invested in the Tenke Fungurume mine, in which Vancouver based company Lundin Mining has a 24.75 per cent stake.
The kind of abuses that these companies are alleged to have engaged in during and after the war years makes the re-negotiation or cancellation of their contracts seem long overdue.
Anvil Mining employees were taken to Congolese courts
in June 2007 over allegations that they had provided logistical assistance and ground transportation to the Congolese Armed Forces during an assault on a fishing town called Kilwa in October 2004 in which 70 to 100 civilians were killed.
According to a report by MiningWatch Canada and Entraide Missionnaire, the company’s vehicles were used, among other things, to remove corpses in the aftermath of the assault.
Despite multiple eyewitness testimonies, the company employees were acquitted. The trial was criticized by the UN and several human rights NGOs, including the UK-based human rights NGO Global Witness, who said that Congolese authorities had blocked investigations into the massacre for an entire year; witnesses and victims were intimidated; and a military prosecutor who refused to drop the charges against the employees was transferred to another jurisdiction.
Even more damning evidence of human rights abuses by a company whose contract is being reviewed was exposed by Human Rights Watch in 2005 through a report entitled The Curse of Gold.
The report revealed that in 2002, AngloGold Ashanti – a company partnered with Canada’s Barrick Gold – was negotiating with two rebel groups, the UPC (Hema Union des Patriotes Congolais) and the FNI (Front des Nationalists Integrationnistes) to have access to gold-abundant areas that were out of control of the central government in Kinshasa.
At the time, these rebel groups were carrying out massacres of civilians in the hundreds; The UPC killed about 800 civilians from late 2002 to early 2003, while the FNI forces killed some 500 civilians in May 2003 in a “48-day war.” In return for granting concessions to the company, the FNI were provided with logistical, transportation and housing assistance.
Journalists Keith Harmon Snow and David Barouski go so far as to claim that Human Rights Watch did not reveal the most damning evidence against AngloGold. They allege that the company sent its top lawyers into the country to protect rebel militia leaders.
Further damning evidence implicating mining companies in human rights abuses was made public by the UN in a report issued in 2002 detailing which companies were involved.
The current re-negotiation of contracts is partly a response to the public outcry over these abuses and has been closely watched by civil society organizations that have expressed concern at the secrecy surrounding the process. But what does the review actually mean for the mining companies under scrutiny? Will such a process lead to a decrease in the actual number of Congolese citizens that die in the thousands every month?
The Congolese government's controversial decision to scrutinize mining contracts can be seen as a defiant act against the foreign domination of resources in the Congo. In fact, the Congolese government stated that it wants to increase its share in the Tenke Fungurume mine, which contains the world’s largest unexploited deposits of copper and cobalt.
Lundin Mining, which has a 24.75 per cent stake in the project, claimed in an article published in the Globe and Mail that such a demand would make the mine economically unfeasible. Human rights and land claim issues remain unresolved in the Tenke project. Artisanal miners in the area of the mine are resisting relocating the source of their livelihood to give way for the mining concession.
Beyond its symbolic importance, the renegotiation process may simply transfer resources from foreign mining companies to the Congolese government elite, with little or no benefit actually transferring to the millions of Congolese survivors that have been widowed, raped, brutalized and displaced by years of war over the resources under the land on which they live.
Carina Tertsakian, spokeswoman for Global Witness, notes that many officials in the Congolese transitional government that was set up in 2006 are the same people that established contracts with these mining companies in the first place, making a fair outcome of the review process questionable.
Here in Canada, resistance to mining companies like Barrick Gold has taken the form of organized grassroots actions as well as advocacy by environmental and human rights organizations. During the Congo review process, The Halifax Initiative has been pressuring the Canadian government to stop supporting the Tenke Project, which has been deemed illegal by the review process.
Meanwhile, a coalition of Congolese and human rights NGOs has called upon the Congolese government to conduct negotiations in an open and fair process. “The ultimate aim of this exercise should be to ensure that the Congolese people can benefit from their country’s wealth – a right which they have been denied for decades,” said the NGOs.
“The government should guarantee that the additional profits which result from this review are channeled into the country’s long-term development.”
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ShareWe'd have loved to play with your mind GZ, but this one is just uniquely weird!
We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
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ShareI am guessing that the ASX are giving them grief again, because on page 5 of the presentation, they obviously had the numbers prepared, that were going to be released in time for the AGM. (Obviously again is my guess)
I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
(0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
(0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
(0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
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ShareI find that post rather repugnant and cynical cusox.
Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
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ShareShadow, that is bull dust, and you know it.
If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
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No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
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Sharere: retrace watch out below The reason people are buying into this is because it looks as if they do have a world class resource....if that is the case this stock is very undervalued at current levels.
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ShareMaybe this sheds some light on it ............................
He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview
piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
Posted by bigdump
IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
Post #529199 - in reply to msg. #529188 - splitview
so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
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Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529201 - in reply to msg. #529199 - splitview
fark u 2 fool ramper
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
Posted by trade4profit
IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview
diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
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Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
Posted by bendigo
Post #486328 - start of thread - splitview
Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
Posted by NR
Post #486342 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview
all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
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Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
Posted by Dezneva
Post #486665 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview
Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
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These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:40 - 234 reads
Posted by Rocker
IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
Post #529215 - in reply to msg. #529204 - splitview
well picked up T4P
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This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
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ShareI get your drift joewolf.
The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
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ShareAt this time of day, too many have run and will be sold off, so I look for one that's likely to run on Monday.
CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
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Sharere: it goes like this? Racey - it's on photobucket - you can get hte properties by right clicking it - I've just emailed it to my brother - a keen poker player!
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ShareWhat a fascinating thread reading back 3 months!
Lots of reading today!
So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......
[email protected]
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