Yes it's stating the obvious isn't it, it's a sort of like...

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    Yes it's stating the obvious isn't it, it's a sort of like saying i'm hanging around the bar because there's free drinks at 5 pm and it's still only 5 am in the morning. The real issue that haunts the party is the outcome of the Setka case, nothing really no outcome, a judge has really just put it on hold, imagine if this had been a Liberal issue, the ABC would be spearing it day after day and raising the issue of what's happening to put pressure on a ministerial outcome.

    It is probably a fair indication of how powerful and influential certain groups are in Australia, and the sway they have, but the question is, is that a good thing for all, or just the staunch supporters no matter what at what cost.
 
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