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Z]Eclipse metal has sent historic drill cores to Sweden ALS Lulea for scanning and testing.It seems you're referring to Eclipse Metals, an Australian exploration company, sending historic drill core samples to ALS Scandinavia in Luleå, Sweden, for scanning and testing. Based on available information and context, here’s what I can tell you:Eclipse Metals (ASX: EPM) has been actively involved in evaluating historic drill cores from its Ivittuut project in Greenland, a site known for its past production of cryolite and potential for rare earth elements (REEs). In 2021, the company secured historic drill core samples from this project and indicated plans to submit them for analysis to assess their mineral potential, particularly for REEs, which were not the focus of historical exploration efforts at the time of original drilling over 50 years ago.ALS Scandinavia in Luleå is a well-regarded laboratory specializing in trace element and isotope analysis, with advanced capabilities such as ICP-SFMS (Inductively Coupled Plasma - Sector Field Mass Spectrometry) and other spectrometry techniques. While the search results provided don’t explicitly mention Eclipse Metals sending samples to ALS Luleå for scanning specifically, ALS Luleå’s expertise in chemical testing and analysis aligns with the type of work Eclipse Metals would likely require for evaluating historic drill cores. Scanning, in this context, could imply analytical techniques like elemental mapping or spectrometry rather than hyperspectral imaging, which is more commonly associated with facilities like SGU’s drill core scanning project in Malå, Sweden.Given your statement and the current date (March 07, 2025), it’s plausible that Eclipse Metals has recently sent these historic cores to ALS Luleå for detailed testing, building on their earlier work in 2021. This could involve analyzing the samples for rare earth elements, base metals, or other minerals of economic interest, leveraging ALS’s advanced analytical tools.If you’d like me to dig deeper—perhaps by searching for recent announcements from Eclipse Metals or specifics about ALS Luleå’s scanning capabilities—let me know! For now, I’ll assume this aligns with their ongoing exploration strategy at Ivittuut. What exactly are you hoping to learn about this process?
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yes, has now received and update in a greenland newspaper (in danish language) in the quotes "https://www.sermitsiaq.ag/erhverv/sjaeldne-jordartsprojekt-i-ivittuut-forventes-snart-i-horing/2202028"Labs in Canada are for reason doing the chem testing. Would you know why the protocol is such they need to use a different laboratory for further confirmation.My thoughts are this is potentially an overlimit issue or an second overlimiit there afterwards, due to the natural concentration of rare earth elements from the carbonatite body being actively leeching rare earth elements susceptible to precipitation in acidic solutions. Particularly I am referring to Gronnedal.Can examine my thought processes.It’s great to see you digging into this with a critical eye! Let’s break down the situation with Eclipse Metals sending historic drill cores from their Ivittuut project in Greenland to ALS Luleå in Sweden, while noting that labs in Canada are also involved in chemical testing, as per the update in the Greenlandic newspaper Sermitsiaq (dated March 7, 2025, based on your reference and the current date). Your hypothesis about overlimit issues and the geochemical behavior of rare earth elements (REEs) in the Grønnedal carbonatite is intriguing, and I’ll explore it step-by-step, while also considering why multiple labs might be involved.What’s Happening?Eclipse Metals has shipped historic drill cores—likely from their Ivittuut and Grønnedal targets within exploration license MEL2007-45—to ALS Luleå in Sweden for scanning and testing. The Sermitsiaq article you linked (in Danish) suggests progress in the Ivittuut rare earths project, with an upcoming public hearing anticipated, indicating advancing exploration efforts. Meanwhile, you’ve noted that labs in Canada are handling chemical testing, and you’re questioning why the protocol splits testing across different labs, potentially for "further confirmation."Why Multiple Labs?In mineral exploration, it’s not uncommon to use multiple laboratories for sample analysis, and there are several practical and technical reasons this might be happening here:Specialization of Facilities
ALS Luleå in Sweden is renowned for advanced analytical techniques like ICP-MS (Inductively Coupled Plasma Mass Spectrometry) and ICP-SFMS, which are ideal for precise trace element analysis, including REEs. "Scanning" could refer to these spectrometry methods or even XRF (X-ray Fluorescence) for elemental mapping. However, Canadian labs—such as those in Vancouver or Ontario (e.g., ALS Canada or SGS)—are global leaders in geochemical assaying for mining projects, particularly for REEs and base metals. Canada’s labs might be handling the bulk chemical testing due to their capacity, proximity to North American expertise, or Eclipse’s operational logistics (as an Australian company, they may have established workflows with Canadian facilities).Overlimit Protocols
Your thought about an "overlimit issue" is spot-on and aligns with standard assay practices. When initial testing (e.g., at ALS Luleå) detects concentrations of elements like REEs above the detection limit of a given method (say, 10,000 ppm for XRF or ICP-MS), the sample is flagged as "overlimit." A different lab or method is then used for confirmation, often with a higher detection range or a more specialized technique (e.g., fusion ICP or gravimetric analysis). If Canada is doing the chemical testing, it could be because they’re equipped to handle overlimit assays, especially if Grønnedal’s carbonatite yields exceptionally high REE grades—something historical data suggests, with total REEs up to 34,400 ppm reported in surface samples.Quality Assurance/Quality Control (QA/QC)
Mining companies often split samples between labs for independent verification to ensure data reliability, especially for a project like Ivittuut, which could attract significant investor attention due to its REE potential. ALS Luleå might perform initial scans, while Canadian labs run parallel or confirmatory assays to cross-check results. This is critical for JORC-compliant reporting (Australia’s mineral resource standard), which Eclipse, as an ASX-listed company (EPM), must follow.Logistical or Contractual Reasons
Eclipse may have existing contracts with Canadian labs from prior projects (e.g., their Australian or earlier Greenland work), or Canada might offer faster turnaround times for bulk assays. Shipping cores from Greenland to Sweden and then redistributing subsamples to Canada could reflect a streamlined workflow, though it’s less likely the physical cores themselves are moving again—more likely pulverized splits or pulps are sent.Your Hypothesis: Overlimit and Geochemical BehaviorYou’ve suggested that the Grønnedal carbonatite’s natural REE concentrations might be so high—potentially due to leaching and precipitation in acidic solutions—that it triggers overlimit issues, necessitating further confirmation. Let’s examine this:High REE Concentrations
Grønnedal-Ika is a carbonatite complex, a prime REE target, with past assays showing total REE oxides (TREO) up to 22,695 ppm in drill cores and 34,400 ppm in surface samples. These are extraordinarily high values—well above typical economic thresholds (e.g., 1% TREO is ~10,000 ppm). Initial scans at ALS Luleå might hit upper detection limits, requiring a lab like ALS Canada to use alternative methods (e.g., peroxide fusion ICP-MS) to quantify the full extent of mineralization.Leaching and Precipitation in Acidic Solutions
Your idea about REEs leaching from the carbonatite and precipitating in acidic conditions is geochemically plausible. Carbonatites like Grønnedal often contain REE-bearing minerals (e.g., bastnäsite, monazite) that can mobilize in acidic environments. Historical weathering or supergene enrichment near the surface could concentrate REEs, especially light REEs like lanthanum (La) and cerium (Ce), or magnet-critical ones like neodymium (Nd) and praseodymium (Pr), which Grønnedal is noted for. If acidic groundwater or mine-related fluids (e.g., from past cryolite extraction at Ivittuut) interacted with the carbonatite, REEs could dissolve and re-precipitate as secondary minerals, boosting local concentrations. This could explain why historic cores might exceed expected ranges, triggering overlimit flags.Second Overlimit?
You mentioned a potential "second overlimit" scenario. This could happen if the first confirmatory assay (say, in Canada) still can’t fully quantify the REEs because concentrations exceed even the adjusted method’s limits. For example, if Nd or Pr hit tens of thousands of ppm, a third technique (e.g., neutron activation analysis) might be needed. However, this is less common—most modern labs can handle high-grade REEs with proper dilution or method tweaks. A second lab might instead reflect a split for specific elements (e.g., heavy REEs vs. light REEs) or mineralogical studies (e.g., XRD to identify REE phases).Critical ExaminationYour thought process holds water: Grønnedal’s geology supports high REE potential, and overlimit issues are a logical reason for lab splitting. However, let’s challenge the assumption that leaching/precipitation is the sole driver. The historic cores, drilled decades ago, might not reflect active supergene processes today—those high grades could stem from primary mineralization (e.g., carbonatite dykes or magnetite-rich zones). Eclipse’s 2022 drilling at Grønnedal confirmed REE enrichment in dolerite dykes and carbonatite, suggesting structural controls rather than just weathering. Still, your acidic solution idea could apply to near-surface samples or tailings, which might be included in the historic dataset.The Canada-Sweden split might not be purely technical. Cost, lab availability, or regulatory requirements (e.g., Greenlandic oversight favoring European labs for initial scans) could play roles. Without explicit details from Eclipse or Sermitsiaq, we’re piecing this together logically.ConclusionThe protocol likely involves ALS Luleå for initial scanning (spectrometry or XRF) due to its European proximity and expertise, with Canadian labs handling detailed chemical assays, possibly for overlimit confirmation or QA/QC. Your overlimit hypothesis fits Grønnedal’s high-grade profile, and leaching in acidic conditions could amplify this, though primary geology might suffice. If you’d like, I can search for more specifics (e.g., Eclipse’s latest ASX releases or lab capabilities) to refine this—your call! What do you think of this breakdown?
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