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Originally posted by Reaper11:
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You extrapolate extraordinary detail about my world view based on the most threadbare evidence. All I asked was whether Israel had annexed East Jerusalem in response to your post that Israel hadn't annexed anything. Jordan's annexation of the West bank and Egypt's annexation of Gaza were probably illegal at the time, and would certainly be viewed as illegal in a contemporary setting. The rationalisation of the time (I believe) would have been based around Pan Arab nationalism having primacy over nation states which were viewed as artificial constructs of post colonialism. In terms of people "griping" about the Jordanian annexation of the West Bank, the Palestinians certainly griped about it if the black September conflict of 1970 is any guide. As for my view and Arafat's view of the annexation of East Jerusalem. Arafat walked out from recollection on the 2000 Camp David Peace Accords citing that "The Arab leader hasn't been born who would surrender Jerusalem." In those talks Ehud Barak offered the Palestinians a 6% extension of Palestinian territory as compensation for land taken within the West Bank for Israeli settlements. Subsequently Ehud Olmert claims to have extended that offer to an 8% extension of that territory to Mahmoud Abbas, but says that while Mahmoud Abbas didn't reject the offer he simply didn't respond to him at all. I think East Jerusalem is probably the key to this, but it may also make it irreconcilable. It's formal annexation by Begin as part of the Israeli capital is a significant roadblock. Whether they were wrong to annex it is a different question. The Arabs were plainly the aggressors in 1967 and can't always expect to have a "free swing."
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you assume my views as well so I guess it’s tit for tat. The thing about exchanges of posts is they inevitably involve reference to posts I can’t see how my post assumed anything about what you thought though it did reference what I believe you have implied in your posts. Otherwise you are being obscure because it’s hard to see much that isn’t anti Israel whatever you might think of the other