As it happens I think the opposite. The person I think you're...

As it happens I think the opposite. The person I think you're referring to you i actually know and isn't a bad person, just ASX-inexperienced and will at some point become a very well regarded business person and business leader. He's also got an amazing work ethic. I don't know Bane but have rarely heard a good word said about him from anyone who's dealt with him - even before his Blue Chilli days - and we know that didn't end up very nicely. Time will tell here!