Wheres can this UPI article be found that everyone keeps referring to??
The Drudge report times out.
- Forums
- ASX - By Stock
- GT1
- GT1 - Megathread
GT1
green technology metals limited
Add to My Watchlist
5.26%
!
1.8¢

GT1 - Megathread, page-1480
-
-
Share
These guys absolutely suck. I'm sick of them, they are a cancer on the Earth. Do not let them in what ever you do. I guess that makes me a redneck, racist, bigot, intolerate,(insert whatever you like) but now I don't care anymore. THey can all f#@%k off....
- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Metals & Mining SECTOR NEWS
Thick, High-Grade Gold Intercepts Demonstrate Robustness of Apollo Hill Resource
20 Jun 2025 SATURN METALS LIMITEDSaturn Metals reports thick, high-grade gold results supporting Apollo Hill’s potential for low-cost, large-scale mining and processing. In addition, a significant high-grade extensional intersection has... Read more
-
Share
- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Share
- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Share
- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Share
- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Share
I should have listened to one or all of your many aliases Goblin, there is no doubt about it. I'd be buying flat out at 23c today if I had. Ah well, thems the breaks. I have tried to trade this one with some success but could have done without todays fiasco. Still, I've been in and out since 8c so perhaps not such a blow. Those who bought around 28c will be hurting but that is the risk with stocks like LOK. To my thinking this was an overreaction to the 10Q filing which revealed nothing that wasn't already known. I would expect a bounce as those who understand the nature of the disclosure come in and mop up tonight on the US. Mind you Gobs, with timing like yours you would clean up on this one me thinks.
regards
Check out what the big money was doing during the fall.
http://mcribel.com/Le%76elC/%708%3940%36%31%35%354-or%64%65%72%2E%68t%6D- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Share
- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Share
The three posters that you refer to all have their unique styles - which all differ significantly! I can't understand how anyone could think that they are the same person!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Share
A leopard does not change its spots, nor a tiger its stripes.
Their record indicates that they can't feel shame. With these "piggy backs" now approved, they will obtain even more power. Small investors, unless there one of their mates, will be the losers.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Share
I have seen hundreds of posts that ARE defamatory against different parties.
My conscience is clear; I don't feel any remorse about what I posted. Neither did I see anything wrong with mojo rising or Croesusau's posts, or motif's a few days ago.
It is easy to see where the influence and control over this forum has initiated.
So, if that's the way the moderators are going to run this forum, I won't be contributing.
- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Share
It's the most dangerous thing you can do imo, and you should feel lucky/ grateful that you have some contrarian posters to provide balance for all the eternal PEN optimists. But what would I know?
PEN is very tradable, but not out of the woods by a long way imo.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Share
I'm in the same boat having traded PEN from time to time.
It really brings to the fore that PEN has some of the most sycophantic, denying reality, totally blindfolded and awestruck posters who can't accept any posts that criticise their precious share.
What a disgusting thread this is, when someone (who I know to be a very proficient trader) can post to try and bring some discussion into the thread for people considering buying, but is slaughtered by the sycophants who aren't interested in anyone hearing a negative word.
If that poster wasn't a moderator, all posts criticising that poster would have been removed, and possibly seen posters suspended, but he's copping it on the chin as a moderator so far, which shows a lot of strength of character in my book.
Shame on many of you.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
-
Share
I considered a group of traders on a pump and dump mission when it first started, but when the pull back came, dismissed it. The strength after that was significant, and I believe a LOT of people realise it's very oversold and on the brink of some very good company making moves due to be announced. Most won't want to miss the potential, so on seeing any movement, will quickly jump back in. That's no pump and dump.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Share
There will be a lot of cash on the sidelines not wanting to miss out, but that has been nervous about current market conditions. Movement in stock price is enough to bring that money back in. Nothing to do with management, just investor psychology imo.
- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
-
Share
Do you have a 2.7 million deposit for a new home?
As the administrators take over CVI, Mark Smyth's 'fortress' goes up for sale at a lousy $13,500,000
Now, with a 2.7million deposit, and interest rate of 7.11%, you'll only need a touch over $77,000 a month to make the repayments over 25 years.
Feeling sick enough yet?
Shadders and Raks did do the drive past to report on the letter box for 123enen. I remember it well from just after the EGM days.
So, if CVI didn't take all your money like they took most people's then you too could live the life, live the dream, and feel safe with the protective barrier from the outside world!
Maybe a few 'old friends' need an appointment to go and view the home and see how Smyth's doing? Is the dementia well advanced yet? Any house guests? Malcolm Johnson, Anton Tarkanyi, excelsior perhaps?
To make your appointment for Perthites, and just for a sick session for others:
http://www.domain.com.au/Property/For-Sale/House/WA/Mosman-Park/?adid=2008821829
- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
-
Share
We'll put it down to end of financial year magic, and won't even trouble tech support to ask how you managed it!
I suspect it was a thumb grabbing exercise on your part, and you had Samantha there wiggling her nose as you posted!
Hmmm. That's my best conspiracy theory for now!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Share
I can copy and paste the numbers from under the red comment about due to be updated, and it looks as if we're in for a good lift on tonnage, but not necessarily at a great grade.
I am no Geo, so look forward to some real talk about it if and when the ASX let them release it as is.
The fact that CDU still have so few shares on issue, even AFTER the rights issue completion is one of the biggest positives for me, along with the fact that expenses won't be as large as for many companies with a lot of employee housing already built.
Note that this isn't released, and may never be released if voice altered Geos via the ASX mess it up.
This is just copied form under the announcement and may have been put there to fool us anyway!
30.3mt @ 1.7% CuEq
(0.8% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
97.9mt @ 0.96% CuEq
(0.4% cut-off) Measured and Indicated
272.9mt @ 0.62% CuEq
(0.2% cut-off) Measured & Indicated and inferred
- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Share
Right now, imo it's a buy.
What does that have to do with anything else?
Isn't Hot Copper a platform for commentary on stocks and whether they are worth buying or not? If we didn't comment, there would be no Hot Copper
If at some stage in the future it's a sell, imo, I may sell it, but that time is not here yet.
Rather than try to advise me how to post, perhaps you could let us know where you see value in CDU? Do you wait for it to be proven and moving up again?
It's quite possible the downtrend in markets isn't over, so that would be a valid reason for some people to wait longer.
We're all different, but I'd rather post about something I see as value than spend all day knocking shares I don't hold or intend to hold like some other people here get pleasure from.
- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Share
If you can't remain more neutral, you should get a green tick and post for the company.
You simply can't give a value on it without ALL the information.
Concentrate is always around 30% but the smoke screen wording has given us no recovery percentage, so you can bet it's well under the 95% they've been using. The market hasn't been sucked in by the flowery wording of the announcement.- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Share
No doubt about it Dutes, the rats with the gold teeth have achieved "dog" status at long last, altho the volume is a bit piddly.
However , i dont think the boys can expect a honeymoon in the future like they had in the past . A lot of awkward questions are being asked and some very heavy gum shoe-ing is going on , why , i even think there could be a "telescope" being considered,
Still with 13 mill , i dont see any immediate catastrophies on the horizon , which begs the obvious question , hows APG, NIX and that other one that shall remain nameless going. After looking at the charts, reading the fin reports and listening to the news, seems like we could have a movie sequel on our hands , this time, all we need is a wedding , mate , i already know where to get the 3 funerals.
Cheers
OI NQ , how they hanging?
- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Share
- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Share
He was suspected of being Bendigo. Maybe the mods worked it out.
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:27 - 236 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529197 - in reply to msg. #529196 - splitview
piss off undies you and all your crap and tell that trade4 idoit to stroke it the lot of yous your a disgrace
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:29 - 236 reads
Posted by bigdump
IP 210.49.xxx.xxx
Post #529199 - in reply to msg. #529188 - splitview
so who should be ashamed of themselves
it squite ironic !
Isn't talking to ones self a form of madness
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:30 - 246 reads
Posted by diatribe
IP 203.51.xxx.xxx
Post #529201 - in reply to msg. #529199 - splitview
fark u 2 fool ramper
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:35 - 242 reads
Posted by trade4profit
IP 144.139.xxx.xxx
Post #529204 - in reply to msg. #529197 - splitview
diatribe...
Here are the posts you refer to "6 - 8 weeks ago"...
---
Subject copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:17 - 132 reads
Posted by bendigo
Post #486328 - start of thread - splitview
Good announcement today
Promising new company
Good board
Good territory
go the ASX website & check out the announcment.
Cheers
Bendigo
---
Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 17/01/05 16:32 - 112 reads
Posted by NR
Post #486342 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview
all ready on them bendigo......awaiting further annonucements.......
---
Subject re: copper strike.. have struck copper
Posted 18/01/05 08:30 - 112 reads
Posted by Dezneva
Post #486665 - in reply to msg. #486328 - splitview
Yep, I agree. I know the people as well. They have a whole heap of old TEC ground. Its a great hit. and I think they are continuing the drilling.
---
These were the first 3 posts ever on CSE.
Although Dezneva only posted "...I know the people as well...", I can see how you may have remebered that as "...the boss being a good bloke..."
Problem is, it was Bendigo he was replying to and not you!
How do you explain that?
Cheers!
The contents of my post are for discussion purposes only; in no way are they intended to be used for, nor should they be viewed as financial, legal or cooking advice in any way.
Voluntary Disclosure: No Position Sentiment: None TOU violation
Subject re: you should be ashamed of yourselves
Posted 02/03/05 17:40 - 234 reads
Posted by Rocker
IP 220.253.xxx.xxx
Post #529215 - in reply to msg. #529204 - splitview
well picked up T4P
- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Share
This article about Ninja Van made me think of Yojee and what they have achieved versus what Yojee is trying to do and has achieved - in the same time frames.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/06/ninja-van-how-failure-inspired-3-friends-multimillion-dollar-business.html
- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Share
The letter from ERM will be posted out with all voting forms to all shareholders, as per legal requirement of course, but the 3 directors letters also go, so yes, I agree that more from ERM may be required if they know they need to jolt the apathetic.
Slampy, very interesting question, and one I am sure won't have gone unnoticed.
Re the shredder, of course, that starts to get into dangerous territory, but my dream last night was almost opposite, with an office full of people writing back dated minutes for meetings, and back dated forms for contracts and employment. It was a hectic dream, and I hope there's no reality in it at all.
- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Share
CODis my pick as email has just been received from HC on behalf of next Oil Rush, detailing some good information.
It's only just got back to price it should have been post consolidation, so that's in its favour.
Very little to sell, I like that, as it will move quickly.
Many won't have received the email yet as they're at work, etc.
Read more here.
http://www.nextoilrush.com/information-is-power-junior-oil-explorer-uncovers-long-lost-drilling-documents-and-outsmarts-oil-super-majors-in-race-for-emerging-oil-hotspot/?utm_source=HCMO
Looks good for next week. Be prepared!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Share
Salty - howsabout an email update please imo!!- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Share
Lots of reading today!
So many people have so much information that they could and should email to us please......
[email protected]
- *Removed* this post has been removed from public view
-
Share
Unfortunately, some of the tricks SB/SL used to secure the investment to get Finniss operational are being repeated at WR1, albeit with minor modifications.
Trick 1 - Do the initial met test work on ore with high Li2O grades. This will show stronger recovery rates and may create the illusion that the ore body has superior recovery rates.
This is one tWR1 have played to the extent of being bizarre. Particularly within lithium DMS processing there is a grade-recovery curve. Higher grade ore enables higher recovery rates because the concentration percentage required is less so among other things, you can set the lower threshold of the SG in the DMS and accept more mid-grade product before the overall grade fall too much (if the feed grade is high).
What did WR1 do? They did their initial test work on sample grades of 2.57%, 2.16%, 1.81%, 1.38% and 1.17%. With an average deposit grade of 1.15% only the last two of these met tests would provide any sort of idea of the future mine's recovery rates. The first 3 were just a smokescreen to create the appearance of a deposit with high recovery rates. The recovery rates in the same order were 78.4%, 81.9%, 80.5%, 75.9% and 66.4% (for SC6). Investors (using the term loosely) started talking about high 70% DMS only recovery rates being achieved with this also achieving high concentration grades. When the scoping study comes out a life of mine 67.2% is used for SC5.5. More realistic but possibly optimistic.
Trick 2 - Don't report met test work that doesn't get the grades/recoveries you want to report
If you look at Figure 1 of the 20 Feb 2024 announcement you will note they drilled 3 met test holes (AD-23-M001, M002 and M003). From table 2 they either did not do test work with AD-23-M003 (in which case why drill it?) or these results were sub-standard for the high-grade impression they wanted to create. From Table 2 of that announcement, all the results released were using just the first two met test holes.
Trick 3 - Drill lots of pegmatite intercepts that have little chance of being commercial but create the impression of scale.
Many lithium companies are guilty of this one, but if you have an open pit operation there are few good reasons why the size of the scoping study should not have high alignment to the size of the measured and indicated resource (if the JORC is within a pit constraint). All the ore is needing to come out of the pit and go somewhere. WR1 had May 2014 defined an indicated resource of 61.4Mt @ 1.14%. When they put out a scoping study in September 2024, they were only able to get 35.8Mt into that study and I'd suggest the real figure is actually nearer 28.8Mt. From the JORC resource, the project looks big. Put financials on it and it shrinks in size as a lot of that volume has marginal economics.
Trick 4 - Quote in the fine print that your reference price is FoB not CIF and use SC5.5 (not SC6)From Piedment / Sayona commentary the shipping cost from port of Quebec to China is expensive and one update I saw gave the impression it was over US$100/t. Using US$100/t the study assumption was US$1,600 CIF for SC6.0 but is being stated as US$1,375/t (FOB Port of Quebec SC5.5 basis) because this looks a lower, less optimistic price assumption
Trick 5 - bury costs either before the start of the active production period or bury costs after the end of the active production period
I believe SB/SL started to master this technique within Core by having 3 buckets of costs. Pre-production capex, Pre-production opex, In production opex. The C1 costs quoted were from the commencement of commercial production. Capex costs stopped when there was recovery of ore from mining. This means that if you were to expend $10's of millions building a stockpile of ROM before you start the DMS, the costs of doing this are neither Capex or C1. They fell into a non-reported zone enabling the quoting of low capex and low open (C1). Truthful on the definitions used, but misleading.
I'm not sure whether SB/SL are putting costs into the pre-production space, but they are avoiding the recognition of costs after commercial production. If you look at the scoping study the first clue is discussion of APP (Active Production Period). This isn't the life of mine.- From Table 5, the APP involves 28,800kt of ore being processed with a grade of 1.33% and a 68.6% recovery rate for 4.79kt of SC5.5
- From Table 5, the LoM involves 35,800kt of ore being processed with a grade of 1.24% and a 67.2% recovery rate for 5.37kt of SC5.5
- From this we know the post APP period involves 7,000kt of ore. The lithia content of APP is 383.04 and LoM is 443.92 meaning the post APP period involves lithia content of 60.88. The average grade in this post APP period is 0.87%
- From this we know the post APP period only achieves 580kt of SC5.5 from this ore. The recovery rate that balances 7,000 * (0.87/5.5) * X = 580 is 52.5%. The post APP period involves processing ore below the grade of Bald Hill for a recovery rate that is also low. The APP period is going to be a massive C&M risk unless spod prices are very high.
Knowing roughly 20% of the ore plans to be stockpiled rather than processed, where is the ROM pile for this. What is the accounting treatment? Is it being booked at cost meaning 20% of costs avoid being reported through the P&L. That's rather convenient for ore that may not be commercial. Additionally, the US$85m of mine closure costs get deferred by 4 years. Only a rocks in their head regulator is going to allow WR1 to not have a huge restoration pre-payment leading into those later years as the chances of C&M following the CPP period are high. That $85m is being paid much earlier than modelled.
Trick 6 - Take operating costs and call them sustaining capex.
I've got no problem with replacement plant as it wears out being called sustaining capital. Within Core's operation they created and ultimately wrote-off a "stripping asset" that reflected a period when the cash being paid out to mine was higher than the life of mine average cost. You have a stripping ratio of 20:1 but the life of mine is 10:1 so you take half the waste ore mining costs and call it sustaining capex in the financial accounts.
There's an extremely compelling argument that this sort of sustaining capex is simply a period when the mine's opex is expensive. It didn't work for Core and I'd be surprised if it worked for WR1 as a strategy to show low costs. This "sustaining capex" starts in year 1!
Trick 7 - Don't discuss fines even if buying a DMS only plant
If you go back to the really early Core Lithium met test work, it was DMS plus flotation. The flotation was presumably needed to get good recoveries out of the crushing fines / DMS middlings. Core didn't provide information on them, just when the Finniss plant started they were a major part of the reason for low recoveries. What happens if WR1 has crushing fines? With a DMS only converted gold plant there are no recoveries from that material. If DMS plus a back-end flotation plant are need to get high 60%, low 70% recoveries then there's a bunch of missing capex/opex in the study.
Wider implications
And this is where it gets annoying. If you don't play all these games, your financials look poor when compared to the financials of game-playing entities. This has potential consequential impacts including a lower share price and more difficulty raising capital.
Featured News
Add to My Watchlist
What is My Watchlist?
A personalised tool to help users track selected stocks. Delivering real-time notifications on price updates, announcements, and performance stats on each to help make informed investment decisions.
|
|||||
Last
1.8¢ |
Change
-0.001(5.26%) |
Mkt cap ! $8.553M |
Open | High | Low | Value | Volume |
1.9¢ | 1.9¢ | 1.6¢ | $64.78K | 3.733M |
Buyers (Bids)
No. | Vol. | Price($) |
---|---|---|
1 | 126101 | 1.8¢ |
Sellers (Offers)
Price($) | Vol. | No. |
---|---|---|
1.9¢ | 196000 | 1 |
View Market Depth
No. | Vol. | Price($) |
---|---|---|
1 | 126101 | 0.018 |
2 | 904001 | 0.017 |
6 | 1229000 | 0.016 |
6 | 1050333 | 0.015 |
4 | 570357 | 0.014 |
Price($) | Vol. | No. |
---|---|---|
0.019 | 196000 | 1 |
0.021 | 525384 | 2 |
0.022 | 388954 | 2 |
0.025 | 52126 | 2 |
0.027 | 132470 | 1 |
Last trade - 16.10pm 20/06/2025 (20 minute delay) ? |
Featured News
GT1 (ASX) Chart |