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16/09/19

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Originally posted by acorn: ↑

I was having a discussion with a fellow petrol head the other day that owns a very collectible Australian muscle car. We were trying to work out what's going to happen to them once evs are at price parity with ice cars.
While his old rocket will most likely hold it's value, we couldn't say that for normal vehicles.

We both came to the conclusion that normal cars will become pretty much worthless overnight once evs match them on price.

Why would you buy an ice car if an ev will do everything for the same sticker price ? Cheaper to own. Full tank every morning. Better performance. Ultimately upgradeable.

We both drive late model vehicles that don't need replacing for a good few years yet. We both agreed that it's not worth updating an ice car anymore. I'm sure that's not the same for all people. If you need a new reliable car, you need it regardless. However, if you only change out your cars every 6 to 8 years or so and your car is only 2 or 3 years old, it might be wise to wait.

i suspect a lot of people are doing that now.

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Originally posted by sierra: ↑

Most people that I know that get rid of a car that's still going well after owning it for a number of years do so because it's becoming expensive to maintain it. High km major services coupled with a failure that triggers fear for the future cost and reliability.
I believe Tesla's are virtually service free or optional and the computer lets you know when anything needs attention. Since the components are designed for extreme life cycles with brakes almost optional too thanks to regen, what would be the motivation to change a Tesla model 3 after 150,000km? All it needs is tyres and a polish so it's a valuable asset instead of a depreciating liability.

I enjoy a new car but I also appreciate a car that has given good service and is a pleasure to drive after many years and that's what i'm hoping EV's will offer and reverse the throw away mentality.

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The reliability and maintenance issues with ICE are the same as for the EVs. Technology. It’s the electronics that fail on ICEs now, and consign them to the scrap heap and low resale values at an early age. If you look at some of the issues with Teslas they’ve arisen because Tesla refuse to allow access to the modules to allow people to fix them - you have to buy a new one.

Or it’s just a fundamental design cock-up:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19912065

Anyway, you’ll continue to see our pre-2001 fleet of easily maintained Diesel sippers on the roads for a while to come. And the occasional foray of the guzzling RX7.
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