yes but all the crooks are in the game.... and it runs from the sick badly run hedge funds (investment banks are hedge funds)........up to fed and then on to the govt and so on........ there will still be denial aplenty at this point from those 'in the game'........ did you hear john mack of morgan stanley whining that people were shorting his stock last night??????? of course it hasn't stopped his firm from sending a litany of other companies out the back door as they shorted stock for years in their role as one of the largest leveraged and real money managers on the planet............ time to pay the piperman...........
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