Thank you, it sprang to mind, but I think I subliminally...

Thank you, it sprang to mind, but I think I subliminally borrowed it from Convoy63. Whatever the case, I agree that shorters usually respond to the conditions, not create them. It's been a learning curve, but clearly many investors here pay no attention at all to whether a business model is profitable or even capable of being profitable, only about revenues and gross numbers - kick the can down the road and it will fall into place. But the more things change, the more they stay the same and a new era of corporate fiscal responsibility and accountability is upon us - it is part of the cycle until the next wave of cowboys. These ones are toast.