Kelp I think it's a stretch to say CBA dumped $35M shs on market and that was the only problem........... it's a much longer story than that....... and the market conds as I recall at that time were fantastic... everything else was looking OK....... it's a great ann. for them with the sth africans and let's hope a new dawn....... but this stock has left deep scars across most of the previous holders............ surely can go well now off a low base with a good partner and some of the management are great...........