John 3.13
And no man has ascended up to heaven,BUT HE THAT CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN
Now lets look at what is really being said here;
John 3:12 - If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
Then he goes on to explain an example of a heavenly thing of the future, what's coming;
3:13 - And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, the Son of man which is in heaven.
Note the order in this verse, it does NOT mention coming down first.
He died, went to the Father, touch me not as I have not yet been to the Father and then he comes down from heaven and they saw him = He is giving an example, of a heavenly matter, to come.
Clearly it's future, because as he is speaking, he is NOT in heaven.
You see, it is very easy to read things wrong when one has pre-set seeds.
You see the verses, but you don't really see them.
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