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    kippa I think it will take at least 2 terms, probably 3 before ALP could be a chance for reelection, given how they are going at the moment. Rudd won't wait 6-9 years. His ego is not built for opposition.

    They had a chance to give themselves a chance today but Rudd dogged it.
 
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