Good point macleod..I just hope the negative nkp holders here spruiking low teens as the offer to be made dont make up a majority of the 20 something % plus we need to keep these b------s honest ..zijin must read these posts and have a good laugh .....we were going to offer 50c but seems these fools might be happy with 18 going by these posts ..wise up keep positive not long to wait now...debit