independents have lost the plot!!, page-50

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    "So are you saying that the $11 billion on cash handouts stopped unemployment from going to 10%, or was it the BER program which has finished (still no 10% unemployment), or was it the pink batts which has finished"

    You've answered your own questions and the answer is yes yes and yes.

    PS - glad to see you agree about the negative gearing.

    My answer is from cloud cuckoo land - both parties agree that negative gearing is corrupting the market at the expense of the "battlers" and both agree to a phased withdrawal of concessions over 10 years, irrespective of who is in power.

    But as I said that's cloud cuckoo land, politicians actually thinking about whats best for the people of Australia rather than most thoughts being about getting elected (or remaining elected).
 
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