Indoctrination, page-91

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    Telamelo,


    It's one thing to say something and put up links, but you and like Mr G often, throw these up, make comments, you get replies and if you reply at all, you single out one minor point (irrelevant) and ignore others main points.


    Now that,.... is against what the Bible teaches.


    Psa 138:2 - I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.

    Both you and Mr G ignore this verse --> Doesn't the JW Tower have a script, copy/paste for you on this verse?


    I would put it to you that, the reason he places his word above his name is because He IS Word = The Word, Alpha Omega, Aleph Tav.

    The Bible shows it to be his hand, arm, right arm, His Face, footsteps in Gen, pasture, house, fortress, wall, comforter, food etc etc = It is him and not just a title as in Jehovah.

    So do you want a name or the real thing? (Not a good word here, but I expect you get the point.


    Rev 1:8 - I am (The) Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. 

    In the beginning was the Word (mind, reasoning, plan) and the Word (mind, reasoning, plan) was with The God and GOD WAS "the" Word.

    The same, this, it (mind, reasoning, plan) was in the beginning with God.

    (Inner Logos - Titus 1:2 - In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began

    Expressed Logos - 1:3 - All things were made through him (God); and without him (God) was not any thing made that was made.
    Psa 33:6 - By the word of the LORD were the heavens made and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth (Spirit).


    You lot claim, Jesus was the first created = the above shows this to be impossible, Jesus would have been a host and they were not created first.

    Hence your claim of Jesus being the Master worker, creator, fails Big time.

    1 John 1:1 - That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life; (This verse is referring to his creations)

    Word of life = John 1:4 In Him (God) was life = as shown above, IN his, God's, word.


    Jesus as John 5:26 shows, received life in himself, was ONLY after his Baptism where he received Spirit/Word, without measure from the Almighty God and Father, Luke 4:18 and John 3:34 and as the Bible shows in John 6:68, these words he RECEIVED were the words of eternal life = The Word = The Word OF God --> means, YOU cannot be the thing you are of, Just the carrier of IT.

    Hence, why the Bible says in Rev 19:12-13, no one knows his (Jesus's) name, do not understand what it's actually saying, represents.


    And as another poster pointed out, if the name Jehovah was so important as you lot claim, then when Jesus said how to come to God in prayer, he would of most definitely said so.

    John 5:20 -  For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.

 
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