HLI helia group limited

Initial thoughts on value / yield, page-2

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    I dont think the run off risks are insignificant.
    Clearly HLI is charging much more for LMI than competitors or the government. Maybe they are using 2008 ELs and LGDs. All the other users will go the same way or HLI will have to drop their rates. Suspect the latter wont happen, in which case HLI is now dead.
    -APRA doesnt like complete run offs. There was a previous run off and the cash was stuck in there for almost a decade(?)
    -I would have thought most of the users would require HLI to maintain an investment grade credit rating, or a decrease in credit rating would allow substitution. Ratng agencies will require much higher ratios for a run off than a continuing business
    -There are also $130m p.a. of expenses On a SHF basis of $1b, and future SHF investment earnings of $40m p.a., that chews into NTA pretty quickly unless the expense base is slashed
    -The redemption of the sub debt and special divvieshas reduced the massive over capitalisation to within their target range and I guarantee that target range will go up if HLI goes into quasi run off
    Nothwithstanding the conservative accounting , its completely feasible we have seen the end of specials for the next 5 years
 
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