speaking of irrefutable, do we or do we not have physical evidence of dinosaurs - regardless of the accuracy of carbon dating, why is there no reference to these creatures from any religious writings?
if there is some form of a god or higher being, it has little relevance to any religion on this earth
caveman apparently believed in gods - not surprising given their expected level of evolution & understanding
religion, as we know it, is simply a conduit for manipulation of the masses
