Elysian,You may be right, I think we only differ on the time...

Elysian,
You may be right, I think we only differ on the time scale, not that it is likely to happen.

Hong Kong is always a nice visit. I was referring not so much to the feel and mood on the street (very hard to suppress the entrepreneurialism of the chinese in Hong Kong) but more to the recent political/military moves between China and Hong Kong.

I am sure you are aware of them.

In any case, it is a bit of quibbling over details.