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26/02/20

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Originally posted by Copperbod: ↑

""The SUN is the driver mjp Just as NASA said back in the 70s."

Well gee Jopo, really? What else might it be?"

A great deal actually.
It could be that the calculations of radiative effects are wrong .. particularly for regional effects .. which BTW they do seem to be.

Humans societies don't exist by "global averages" but relevant regional effects so that is the most important factor if models and their predictions are to be useful.

That is before we recognize the stupidity ... yes, stupidity, of failing to account for the effects of The Sun beyond the obvious light and heat.
For failing to account for the effects of the Cosmic environment of the Earth and the Solar System. For failing to account for all the as yet unknown relationships between Earth and Sun.

For example, Solar particle forcing.
These are areas that cry out for more research ... but alas funding is no where to be seen.

This leads to the ridiculous situation where lack of funding is used to suggest lack of evidence.

Only non scientists think "the science" is settled and only giant academic egoists think their versions of "the science" represent reality.

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Sure. I see solar particle forcing is included in the CMIP6 dataset.

https://www.researchgate.net/project/Climate-and-Solar-Particle-Forcing

But with jopo leaving out the greenhouse effect in this thread, he's got a wee way to go.
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