Is Jesus God?, page-1260

Again,Rome is the one who instituted the most changes of any religion.

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This is absolutely rubbish, anyone who knows the faith, and have checked down from today to the time of Christ, it's the same faith, as it's embedded in dogmas that cannot change period."

You dont even have faith in the bible,which i dont say as being better than you,but i didnt even know until your last few posts how little faith you have in the bible and the God of the bible.

To think its just subjective and depends on your point of view etc

I honestly did not realise how little faith you have in the power of the bible to comminicate between God and man,i dont say that in a derogatory tone either.

"One needs to check all the faiths that have an Apostle as the founder, they are basically the same as with the Catholic faith, but miles away from Protestant"

Yer the catholic fathers you talk about certainly are,its a different religion than the christian religion.
Its the pagan christian version with totally different concepts of worship,different days,times and most of all the God that is worshipped.

"Where the first 3 reformers, Luther, Calvin, and Zingly from the first go couldn't agree with each other, it's in your DNA, each going their own way, each hijacked Christianity and squated in as being the one and only it, later by the time Luther died there were over 200 each squated in as being it."

Here we go again,same old lame defence.
You said yourself people dont agree with the current pope,theres been times when there were two popes.
Glass houses,anyway,for the 100th time,so what about the reformers and protestantism.
None of that is relevant as you have been told ad nausium,in your eyes you see it as a square up to asking questions of Romes authority.
Protestantism,for 100th time,is just a bastardisation of pagan christian Rome anyway.

Same God=same penal substitution.
They will return to the mother church.

"The big question is how many divisions have been that got you in the position that you are in, that is the big question"

it might be for you,because you keep grasping at straws and trying to get a personal angle for a gotcha moment,not justifying from bible and history for your points.

"You need to look at your own history before you write such nonsense"

You keep banging on with your own $trawman arguments calling me a protestant,lol,bloke needs glasses or comprehension skills?

"Up to 90% of these Protestant churches are trinitarian and 95% would believe in penal substitution.

Do tell how many non-trinitarian agree with each other on the nature of Christ, you'll find it that they are all different, if it's like you said then they should agree with each other, only proofs it's just how the Bible is rendered according to its founder"

Again,another $trawman,you keep erecting them ,then tearing them down.

Another symptom of the wrong God being worshipped,which is the root problem.

Not the nature of christ,which is a belief connected to which God someone worships.

According to the God you worship,will depend on the nature of Christ you arrive at.

This is why i brought the subject up.
All doctrine and belief starts,without exception,with what God you worship.

Everything else,all other doctrines are secondary.
This is why Jesus told the parable about the man building his beliefs on the sand.

In matthew 16.16
Jesus tells Peter,that building on the foundation,the Jesus is the son of God,is the foundational doctrine of christianity.

You have correctly stated,that Rome and protestantism,when storm and tempest come upon this world,will re unite,because protestantism, is just a protest movement who has its roots in Roman catholocism,same God,same foundation,it came out of catholocism.

Its just a bastardisation of Rome.
The daughter of the great harlot of rev17.

"All trinitarian agree with each other, that's the difference with no
n-trinitarian"

Good point,ive been making it all through this thread.
Trinitarians,which include unfortunately

So do tell why your version is correct from other non-trinitarian

again you are parroting nonsense, trying to salvage what you cannot

Further more the Trinity is not the only thing that is believed or not, this what you are pushing so you highlight it"

I dont highlight it
Jesus highlighted what the christian foundation is.

I brought it up on this forum to show catagorically the God ,that God brought the Hebrews out of Eygpt ,and taught them step by step what he wanted them to follow.

Has been changed,and Rome admits to this change.

"Each way you look sorry no dice"

Unfortunately for you,all the 6s on the dice came up.
They all have the popes name on them.

The Trinity is the term employed to signify the central doctrine of the Christian religion — the truth that in the unity of the Godhead there are Three Persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, these Three Persons being truly distinct one from another.

https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15047a.htm#:~:text=The%20Trinity%20is%20the%20term,truly%20distinct%20one%20from%20another.