Doing some study today, I came across some bible texts, in my...

Doing some study today, I came across some bible texts, in my opinion, makes the subject of this thread very clear. Sometimes, the answer is right in front of you, but we overlook it.

The Bible presents a complex understanding of whether anyone has seen God the Father. There are instances where God appears to communicate directly with individuals, but it is often through visions, manifestations, or other indirect means, rather than them seeing His full glory or essence.

Key Verses Suggesting No One Has Seen God:

1. John 1:18 (TLV):
   "No one has ever seen God; but the one and only Son, who is Himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made Him known."
   This verse emphasizes that no one has seen God the Father, and Yeshua (Jesus), as the Son, reveals God to humanity.
2. Exodus 33:20 (TLV):
   "But He also said, 'You cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live.'"
   Here, God directly tells Moses that no one can see His face and survive. This highlights the idea that God's full glory and presence are too overwhelming for humans.

Instances of God's Manifestation:

While no one has seen God's full glory, several people in the Bible experienced manifestations of God's presence:

1. Moses – Exodus 33:22-23 (TLV)
   Moses asked to see God's glory, and God allowed Moses to see His "back" but not His face.
   "When My glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft of the rock and cover you with My hand until I have passed by. Then I will take away My hand, and you will see My back, but My face will not be seen."
2. Isaiah's Vision – Isaiah 6:1 (TLV)
   Isaiah had a vision of the Lord seated on a throne, though it’s generally understood that this was not a direct, physical sighting of God the Father.
   "In the year of King Uzziah's death, I saw Adonai sitting on a throne, high and lifted up, and the train of His robe filled the Temple."
3. Jacob’s Encounter – Genesis 32:30 (TLV)
   Jacob wrestled with a divine being, and afterward, he said:
   "So Jacob named the place Peniel, 'for I’ve seen God face to face, yet my life has been spared.'"
   However, this is often interpreted as an encounter with a divine representative or pre-incarnate Yeshua rather than seeing God the Father directly.

Yeshua's Role in Revealing God:

Yeshua plays a crucial role in making God the Father known to humanity. John 14:9 (TLV) records Yeshua saying:
"He who has seen Me has seen the Father."
This points to the idea that through Yeshua, humanity has a tangible understanding of God's nature, love, and character. Yeshua is the clearest revelation of God, serving as the visible image of the invisible God.

According to Scripture, no one has ever seen the full, unveiled glory of God the Father. While there are instances where people encountered manifestations of God, these were either indirect visions or appearances in a form that allowed human survival. Yeshua, however, is the one who reveals God to mankind, making God's love and nature known.
Many theologians and Bible scholars interpret instances where God walked or interacted directly with humans in the Old Testament as appearances of Yeshua (Jesus) in pre-incarnate form, often referred to as a theophany or Christophany. This includes the idea that when God walked with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, it was Yeshua rather than God the Father.

Biblical Example: God Walking with Adam and Eve

In Genesis 3:8 (TLV), after Adam and Eve sinned, it says:
"They heard the sound of Adonai Elohim going to and fro in the garden in the wind of the day. So the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of Adonai Elohim in the midst of the Tree of the garden."
Here, God is described as physically moving through the garden, suggesting a tangible presence. Since, as we've seen in other scriptures, no one can see God the Father and live (Exodus 33:20), many believe that this interaction with Adam and Eve was with Yeshua.
Yeshua as the Visible Manifestation of God

Yeshua is often seen as the visible and personal manifestation of God in human history:

• Colossians 1:15 (TLV):
  "He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation."
• John 1:1, 14 (TLV):
  "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God... And the Word became flesh and tabernacled among us."

In these verses, Yeshua is described as the image of the invisible God, and the Word of God made flesh. Therefore, when God physically interacted with humans, it is understood that this was Yeshua, who is the one who reveals God to humanity in a way they can experience.
Consistency with Yeshua's Role

Yeshua's role in revealing God is central throughout Scripture. He is the mediator between God and humans, so it fits that He would be the one who walked with Adam and Eve in the Garden, maintaining that direct relationship with humanity from the beginning.

Yes, when the Bible says that God walked with Adam and Eve, it is commonly interpreted as Yeshua in His pre-incarnate form, rather than God the Father. This aligns with the scriptural teaching that Yeshua is the one who reveals God and interacts with humanity in a physical, visible way.

For me, this is as straightforward as it gets. I am closed-minded moving forward on this subject, as I feel I have studied and explained it extensively to prove my point. I could probably write a book based on how much I have posted on this very topic here at HC.
If you are going to change the meanings of words and erase terms found in the original Dead Sea Scrolls and manuscripts, then there’s no helping you, as you would be creating a religion unto yourself. You may as well rewrite the bible to align with your own beliefs..