if we're talking about depression - basically I think in severe...

if we're talking about depression - basically I think in severe cases - yes - with also shock therapy, but, I don't know a lot about it.

for a lot of other diseases though - and I suggest long Covid

I would say that it's real - a real physical effect, sometimes, it would of course have a psychological side - but, on top of something very physical.

I've met enough people who had Covid - some, several times, to know that it can be different in each person and in each person, each time they have got it can be very different to the last.

Covid is new - we just don't know what it will bring. The kids that are appearing now with long covid - god knows what it might all mean 30 or 40 years down the track for them - or even next generation - their kids or grandkids. Virus can do all kinds of tricks including effecting future generations.

my bet is that long Covid is very real.