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Originally posted by Goldies: ↑

Before I start. I don't think you are anti-Semitic. I don't think most of you are, but some of the language used IS and some of the ideas ( in my opinion) ARE.

And it doesn't help, when there are other people who are openly Anti-Semitic and not one of you have ever called it out. This is also part of the problem. "Silence is defencing"

and part of the reason I believe Israel leadership don't care much for public opinion.

Okay I'll bite. Lets say for a second I entertain the notion that Hamas is a creation of Israel, used at the time to destabilise PLO in power. The very Hamas that was created I'm sure has morphed into something that they obviously do not/cannot control now or have been able to for the past 15/16 years.

We also entertain that Rabin, or Peres headed the campaign to create Hamas, 2 leaders who tried to do more for peace than most of the sitting presidents. Perhaps it was Yitzchak Shamir - a notorious hard liner who did lots to normalise relationships with the USSR and ended up being a big advocate of bringing Jews into israel - including the famous airlifting of 14K Ethiopians into israel "Operation Solomon" Which one do you think created Hamas?

The question I have however... Does that change the current narrative? The initiation to indiscriminately destroy the Hamas at whatever cost, does it matter how Hamas was created now?

I also like both Israelis and Palestinians. I don't like Hamas, I don't like the PLO and Abbas and I don't like right wing extremist who currently sit in office in the Israeli government and some of the population in Israel.

2 state solution is the only way - but that can only happen when the Palestinians adopt a different way of thinking and stop teaching their children to hate Jews and to stab Jews.

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if you have Netflix highly recommend watching -

"Born in Gaza"

also The SPY
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